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According to the Philadelphia Daily News, sources suggest the Red Sox are set to sign free-agent OF J.D. Drew to a four-year, $48 million deal."

TailgateTiger Wrote:According to the Philadelphia Daily News, sources suggest the Red Sox are set to sign free-agent OF J.D. Drew to a four-year, $48 million deal."

good lord! 12 million for this pathetic average ballplayer. it's amazing how much the sox are spending.

umm...sweet. Looks like he got more than anyone thought he would.

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:umm...sweet. Looks like he got more than anyone thought he would.

i forgot one of baseball's natural laws, there's always a team stupid enough to pay way too much.

Swoosh, St. Johns looks like ****. I thought we were supposed to be at least decent.

JFlight21 Wrote:Swoosh, St. Johns looks like ****. I thought we were supposed to be at least decent.

yeah, i'm still in shock. i'd like to point out some things we did well, but i can't. every facet of their game was garbage.

BTW, what's with the "we."

flyingswoosh Wrote:good lord! 12 million for this pathetic average ballplayer. it's amazing how much the sox are spending.

12 million is a ton considering how injury-prone he is, but in the Red Sox's defense, Drew is an awesome talent.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:good lord! 12 million for this pathetic average ballplayer. it's amazing how much the sox are spending.

12 million is a ton considering how injury-prone he is, but in the Red Sox's defense, Drew is an awesome talent.

so is milton bradley. but this really isn't about him being injury prone. i mean, he was pretty healthy this year, yet he put up average numbers.

Do you realize that there were only 15 players in the NL with more RBI then Drew last season. That is hardly average.

Also, he was top ten in the NL in OBP, arent you the guy who is always preaching about OBP?

Im not saying he is a HOFer or anything but he is a pretty darn good player when he is healthy. He did this in a dodgers lineup that was pretty pathetic most of the season.

I would use the same argument you used with Brian Giles, Dodger stadium is a tough place to hit. Career high in doubles, in a smaller ballpark more of those may have been homeruns.

Terpy Wrote:Do you realize that there were only 15 players in the NL with more RBI then Drew last season. That is hardly average.

Also, he was top ten in the NL in OBP, arent you the guy who is always preaching about OBP?

Im not saying he is a HOFer or anything but he is a pretty darn good player when he is healthy. He did this in a dodgers lineup that was pretty pathetic most of the season.

I would use the same argument you used with Brian Giles, Dodger stadium is a tough place to hit. Career high in doubles, in a smaller ballpark more of those may have been homeruns.

you're right, his obp was excellent. but for 12 mil, those numbers are average. for 8 or 9, those numbers are very good, but not for 12. drew is a shadow of his former self. heck, his slugging % was lower than adrian gonzalez's. weak power numbers for a right fielder. i watched him play at least 20 games last season.

also, don't even compare dodger stadium to petco. it's not even close. does anyone else get the feeling that like junior griffey, drew doesn't work hard in the offseason?

flyingswoosh Wrote:but for 12 mil, those numbers are average. for 8 or 9, those numbers are very good, but not for 12.

I don't know. in today's market, Drew may well be a 12 million dollar player (when healthy). 100 RBI and a .393 OBP is worth a lot.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:but for 12 mil, those numbers are average. for 8 or 9, those numbers are very good, but not for 12.

I don't know. in today's market, Drew may well be a 12 million dollar player (when healthy). 100 RBI and a .393 OBP is worth a lot.

those aren't his only numbers though. it's a lot of numbers for a guy who's skills seem to be eroding and who has a huge hole is his swing (changeups low in the zone).

flyingswoosh Wrote:those aren't his only numbers though. it's a lot of numbers for a guy who's skills seem to be eroding and who has a huge hole is his swing (changeups low in the zone).

I wouldn't pay that much for Drew, just saying that with the market being the way it is, it may not be as bad a deal as it seems. 12 million per year for a guy like Drew sounds pretty shocking, but really it isn't anymore. And the Red Sox are a team that can afford to overpay.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:those aren't his only numbers though. it's a lot of numbers for a guy who's skills seem to be eroding and who has a huge hole is his swing (changeups low in the zone).

I wouldn't pay that much for Drew, just saying that with the market being the way it is, it may not be as bad a deal as it seems. 12 million per year for a guy like Drew sounds pretty shocking, but really it isn't anymore. And the Red Sox are a team that can afford to overpay.

yeah, the red sox can afford it and you're right, to them it's not overpaying. it's not like they were gonna do anything else with the money. I also think the sox should've got some pitching instead of more hitting. i think their hitting is good enough.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

JFlight21 Wrote:Swoosh, St. Johns looks like ****. I thought we were supposed to be at least decent.

yeah, i'm still in shock. i'd like to point out some things we did well, but i can't. every facet of their game was garbage.

BTW, what's with the "we."

My bad I meant to say you guys.

On Drew, they vastly overpaid. He is an above average player who would never been an all star. You don't pay that much for an above average player.

BTW, the Reds are close to a 3 year 15 mill deal with Alex Gonzalez. WTF??

flyingswoosh Wrote:also think the sox should've got some pitching instead of more hitting.

Assuming they sign Matsuzaka, that gives them a very intriguing rotation. They'd have three young fireballers at their front of the rotation for years to come with Matsuzaka, Beckett and Papelbon. Three huge X-factors. No one knows what to expect out of any of the three. Each could contend for a Cy Young or each could easily blow up. Then you've got Schilling coming back for at least one more year, and he also could go either way. I'm interested to see how it works out.

They really do need to sign someone dependable with all those big question marks.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:but for 12 mil, those numbers are average. for 8 or 9, those numbers are very good, but not for 12.

I don't know. in today's market, Drew may well be a 12 million dollar player (when healthy). 100 RBI and a .393 OBP is worth a lot.

those aren't his only numbers though. it's a lot of numbers for a guy who's skills seem to be eroding and who has a huge hole is his swing (changeups low in the zone).

I dont understand how you can say his skills are eroding. Career highs in games played, doubles and RBI. Also second highest single season totals in hits, walks and runs. He had one of the best all around seasons in his career. Maybe he isnt worth 12 million but there arent a whole lot of hitters available on the market so he is going to get more than he would in another year, opting out of his contract was a really shrewd move.

Terpy Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:but for 12 mil, those numbers are average. for 8 or 9, those numbers are very good, but not for 12.

I don't know. in today's market, Drew may well be a 12 million dollar player (when healthy). 100 RBI and a .393 OBP is worth a lot.

those aren't his only numbers though. it's a lot of numbers for a guy who's skills seem to be eroding and who has a huge hole is his swing (changeups low in the zone).

I dont understand how you can say his skills are eroding. Career highs in games played, doubles and RBI. Also second highest single season totals in hits, walks and runs. He had one of the best all around seasons in his career. Maybe he isnt worth 12 million but there arent a whole lot of hitters available on the market so he is going to get more than he would in another year, opting out of his contract was a really shrewd move.

how often did you watch him play? i mean, start with his outfield skills and go down the list. the guy doesn't have the skills he once had.

meanwhile the rumor is drew 4 years/56 mil.