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If you could hand pick the next president of the USA, who would you pick and why?

GrayBeard Wrote:If you could hand pick the next president of the USA, who would you pick and why?

Out of the leading candidates? McCain.

I still don't trust him on all issues, but his military experience should prove useful (something we really haven't had w/ the last 2 presidents).

He earned my respect by calling out the last adminstrations blunders on N Korea.

He wields influence.

Newt Gingrich.

My Heart says this...



But my brain says this...



I am a big picture kind of guy. The last time a Clinton was in the White House it gave the Republicans control of the HOR for the first time in 40yrs and also led to majorities in the Senate, Governerships and State Legislatures.
Let Hillary loose for four years with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to do her bidding and you could get Republican majorities for years to come.
Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forward.

Jesus Christ

fsquid Wrote:Jesus Christ

Are you a socialist???

ShoreBuc Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:Jesus Christ

Are you a socialist???

I don't do labels.

McCain or Giuliani.

I'm going with Gore in 08'.

Machiavelli Wrote:I'm going with Gore in 08'.

Spread the word.

Machiavelli Wrote:I'm going with Gore in 08'.

Could it be a Gore/Kerry ticket? Please?

So far, I don't want to vote for anybody that was listed seriously.

Lethemeul Wrote:

Machiavelli Wrote:I'm going with Gore in 08'.

Could it be a Gore/Kerry ticket? Please?

I'm already on record that it will be Gore/Clinton.

That should polarize the two bases plenty, and make it a big deal for the swing vote.

I just hope Edwards and Kerry get on board.

fsquid Wrote:Jesus Christ

Turns out Jesus will be on the ticket in 2008...

STATUS: ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE. This gadfly candidate -- who also uses the name "Saint Michael Jesus the Archangel" (and was formerly named Philip Jesse Silva until he legally adopted the Archangel moniker in 1996) -- appears rather delusional. "From the time I was a little boy I knew I was God and Michael the Archangel, but I didn't dare tell anyone, not even anyone in my family because I knew that the devil, Satan, was going to try to murder Me, and indeed he did try, four separate times," he explains. He also writes a lot about "My Big Brother, Jesus Christ, Whose parents, My spouse the Blessed Virgin Mary Michelle and her guardian spouse, Saint Joseph." Archangel Michael wrote he was a Vietnam War veteran who attempted suicide when, he explains, he suffered from depression and paranoia; and later became a "a volunteer Secret Agent for the Central Intelligence Agency without pay." A former janitor, he is a self-employed "writer" these days. As for politics, he describes himself as a "Reagan Republican" -- but adds he has also briefly drifted in and out of the Libertarian Party twice over the years. Michael the Archangel says he is a "radical conservative Republican" who recognizes "the fact that America is an official Theocracy." I'll just let him explain it in his own words: "The cultural/educational struggle going on between liberals and conservatives ... will decide whether the liberals are allowed to take this nation further and further down the road to socialist destruction or whether the conservatives will take our country back for God and the people. As a 2008 election Republican Presidential candidate, I hope all you Libertarians become Christians. Your support for the pro-choice position vis-a-vis abortion is just as destructive as the Communazis' position on that subject. The Democrats are complete Socialists, that is, Communazis." He also wants tougher enforcement of narcotics laws, a total ban on tobacco sales, opposes any gay rights laws, supports a total ban on abortion, etc. In a major setback for his campaign, Archangel was arrested on attempted murder and other felony charges in March 2006. "As a matter of fact, he is crazy. Anyone in their right mind can see that," said the Sheriff who arrested Archangel. You can find lots and lots of very long pages of writing like this -- all of which proclaim this candidate to be God -- on his official website: ArchangelMichael.info (you've got to scroll down very far on the homepage to find the link to his Presidential campaign and his autobiography).

fsquid Wrote:Jesus Christ

Was that your suggestion for President or your response to ShoreBuc's Hillary suggestion right above you? lmfao

SouthGAEagle Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:Jesus Christ

Was that your suggestion for President or your response to ShoreBuc's Hillary suggestion right above you? lmfao

lmfao lmfao

The Libertarian candidate. Anything but the big two.

Obama

McCain/Giuliani

Unbeatable national security ticket. And moderate enough to win the swing voters. If the Republican party wants to win, the neo-cons need to be cut loose.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:Obama

lmfao lmfao lmfao

Pat Buchanan

dwr0109 Wrote:McCain/Giuliani

Unbeatable national security ticket. And moderate enough to win the swing voters. If the Republican party wants to win, the neo-cons need to be cut loose.

Do you know what a neo-con is? Not what you've been "told". Research what it means to be a neo-con and you will see that McCain and Guiliani fit into that mold more than most conservatives.

moloch_322 Wrote:Pat Buchanan

....and this, dwr, is called a Paleo-Con.

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:Obama

lmfao lmfao lmfao

lets face it, youre going to laugh at anyone else whos ideas differ from your own. what exactly do you want?

would i pick obama for '08? prob not, hes too inexperienced. but he will be a contender in the future no matter what.

I think Pat is more in-tuned to the problems that we - and much of the Western world - will be encountering in the very near future more than any other viable candidate. Unfortunately the media has lambasted the man for as long as I can remember so in essense he is unelectable.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:lets face it, youre going to laugh at anyone else whos ideas differ from your own. what exactly do you want?

would i pick obama for '08? prob not, hes too inexperienced. but he will be a contender in the future no matter what.

No, I'm just going to laugh at the people that put left-wingers up. You will never, not once, see me saying I think Pat Robertson should run. I don't understand Democrats. Bush gave'em everything they wanted and they still bitched. NIU, I don't claim a party but I will say I am fiscally-conservative and fairly socially-liberal. I would support the LP, but they have completely gone off the deep end...that and I DO support the war on Islamic Fundamentalists away from our shores. That is a problem that isn't going away, and regardless of what liberals say, Bush did NOT make it worse. It was already full-scale when he was elected.

ShoreBuc Wrote:My Heart says this...



But my brain says this...

Actually for possbile female candidates those would be the top two you could get. And actually might not be bad choices. Since the men seem to screw it up lmfao

RebelKev Wrote:Do you know what a neo-con is? Not what you've been "told". Research what it means to be a neo-con and you will see that McCain and Guiliani fit into that mold more than most conservatives.

Please explain this to me. Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, I believe that McCain is the same. That is nowhere near neo-conservative.

mlb Wrote:Please explain this to me. Giuliani is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, I believe that McCain is the same. That is nowhere near neo-conservative.

Yeah, by the definition the leftists have created. Do your research. A Neo-Con is one that came from the liberal ranks.

I find it absolutely unfathomable that people want the country to do badly just so their faction can gain power. That's putting the cart in front of the horse.

I consider McCain the early favorite, and I'm all for him. I don't agree with him on all the issues, but from what I've seen he'd be an excellent leader. He has a rare combination of experience and independence.

Hmmm... sounds kind of like the definition and connotation that the righties have for "liberal".

Gravy Owl Wrote:I find it absolutely unfathomable that people want the country to do badly just so their faction can gain power. That's putting the cart in front of the horse.

I consider McCain the early favorite, and I'm all for him. I don't agree with him on all the issues, but from what I've seen he'd be an excellent leader. He has a rare combination of experience and independence.

You must be new to this two-party system.

Gravy Owl Wrote:I find it absolutely unfathomable that people want the country to do badly just so their faction can gain power. That's putting the cart in front of the horse.

I consider McCain the early favorite, and I'm all for him. I don't agree with him on all the issues, but from what I've seen he'd be an excellent leader. He has a rare combination of experience and independence.

i could get behind mccain.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:i could get behind mccain.

I bet you could. lmfao


Ok man, you opened yourself up for that one. You know you'd have done the same to me.

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:i could get behind mccain.

I bet you could. lmfao


Ok man, you opened yourself up for that one. You know you'd have done the same to me.

actually, i caught it myself when i wrote it. i was going to put a disclaimer, buti i figured we were all mature adults here ;-)

RebelKev Wrote:

moloch_322 Wrote:Pat Buchanan

....and this, dwr, is called a Paleo-Con.

I think that in general most people don't understand the difference between or definitions of liberal, neocon, or paleocon. I don't think there really is even one clear cut definition either.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:actually, i caught it myself when i wrote it. i was going to put a disclaimer, buti i figured we were all mature adults here ;-)

Ahh, way to shirk out of the joke, which is ALL it was. I'll remember that when you libs rag on me.

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:Obama

lmfao lmfao lmfao

Unless he's got a REALLY dirty skeleton in his closet; he would win in a heartbeat. The media absolutely love him, he'd get alot of money and free promotion from hollywood, and young people would actually vote if he were a candidate.

Fanatical Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:Obama

lmfao lmfao lmfao

Unless he's got a REALLY dirty skeleton in his closet; he would win in a heartbeat. The media absolutely love him, he'd get alot of money and free promotion from hollywood, and young people would actually vote if he were a candidate.

Um, the media really loved Kerry. The media really loved Gore. But the MEDIA isn't the electorate, now are they? He has NO experience at leading anything. He would NOT get elected.

And Gore and Kerry nearly won, even while being absolute toolboxes. The guy has charisma, and people actually listen. He's like Clinton, except he actually is black, and sounds more intelligent. The local news is nearly ready to crown him the first black president, and he's already said he won't be running anytime soon. He is a state senator, with a foot into a federal goverment in which his party controls both houses. He'll get his "experience" soon enough.

Fanatical Wrote:And Gore and Kerry nearly won, even while being absolute toolboxes. The guy has charisma, and people actually listen. He's like Clinton, except he actually is black, and sounds more intelligent. The local news is nearly ready to crown him the first black president, and he's already said he won't be running anytime soon. He is a state senator, with a foot into a federal goverment in which his party controls both houses. He'll get his "experience" soon enough.

hes opened up the possibility for '08

Ok, as I said earlier about Gore, spread the word.

Fanatical Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:Obama

lmfao lmfao lmfao

Unless he's got a REALLY dirty skeleton in his closet; he would win in a heartbeat. The media absolutely love him, he'd get alot of money and free promotion from hollywood, and young people would actually vote if he were a candidate.

I have a friend who thinks he is great. But before she would vote for him, she would have to hear and evaluate his platform, plans, and priorities. it takes more than just being personable.

Fanatical Wrote:except he actually is black

He is half black, unless he has disavowed his mother.

RebelKev Wrote:You must be new to this two-party system.

What I'm new to is the notion that we should elect somebody terrible just to prove that they're terrible. I hope that most conservatives aren't rooting for another attack by al-Qaeda to demonstrate that the Democrats aren't good at defending us from al-Qaeda.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:I have a friend who thinks he is great. But before she would vote for him, she would have to hear and evaluate his platform, plans, and priorities. it takes more than just being personable.

Yes. He is (as someone else said) a rockstar right now. I'm impressed with what I've seen, but that's really not very much. If he runs he's going to get a LOT more scrutiny.

Blacks and women need not apply. we aren't ready yet.

fsquid Wrote:Blacks and women need not apply. we aren't ready yet.

do tell, when will we be ready? your statement sounds like the entrance sign to some exclusive private golf course. i guess old rich white males are the only people capable of leading this country.....

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:Blacks and women need not apply. we aren't ready yet.

do tell, when will we be ready? your statement sounds like the entrance sign to some exclusive private golf course. i guess old rich white males are the only people capable of leading this country.....

My guess is most Americans are so fed up with the lack of talent that they have been getting from both party's that they might be willing to open up the process some and consider other type candidates.

I swear, what century are we living in? To me, I wouldn't give a damn if they were black, white, green, male, OR female so long as they were qualified and I felt they would represent me.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:Blacks and women need not apply. we aren't ready yet.

do tell, when will we be ready? your statement sounds like the entrance sign to some exclusive private golf course. i guess old rich white males are the only people capable of leading this country.....

Probably not in my lifetime.