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I voted this morning and actually voted Republican (I feel so dirty) in a few races. Now I won't bore you with the detail that a Republican was the only person running in most of those positions......

I voted already. Optical scanner. Seemed to work alright, but filling in the boxes with pens took some time.

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:I voted already. Optical scanner. Seemed to work alright, but filling in the boxes with pens took some time.

Same here. I'm in DC so I had to do a absentee ballot last week.

BTW, I voted yes on issue 4, and no on 5 :) (Ohio smoking laws). No reason that a business owner should lose his right to decide whether people can smoke or not in their establishment.

I voted last week during advance voting.

uhmump95 Wrote:I voted this morning and actually voted Republican (I feel so dirty) in a few races. Now I won't bore you with the detail that a Republican was the only person running in most of those positions......

In the State Senate and State House races where a Dem was running unopposed, I wrote in George W. Bush just so I wouldn't vote for a Democrat. ;-)

uhmump95 Wrote:I voted this morning and actually voted Republican (I feel so dirty) in a few races. Now I won't bore you with the detail that a Republican was the only person running in most of those positions......

I voted this morning and was stuck voting for all Democrats except one Republican. Only had one Republican running as 95% of the Island's registered voters are Democrats.
I guess I am now officially qualified to start asking for free stuff.

SouthGAEagle Wrote:I voted last week during advance voting.

uhmump95 Wrote:I voted this morning and actually voted Republican (I feel so dirty) in a few races. Now I won't bore you with the detail that a Republican was the only person running in most of those positions......

In the State Senate and State House races where a Dem was running unopposed, I wrote in George W. Bush just so I wouldn't vote for a Democrat. ;-)

I'm voting for a Democratic Attorney General. Sorry, but I don't see that Thurbert Baker has done anything to warrant me voting him out of office and I'm not voting against him just because he has a "D" by his name.

voted.

Straight Democrat and i fired all the judges.

also on the ballot where 4 measures

1. no pay for legislatures in jail i voted yes.
2. rainy day fund spending unananious decision yes
3. booze on election day yes
4. Freeport exemption no

I voted early.

Didn't really check the screen at the end to see if everything looked alright. Dems rig elections in my area anyway, so what does it matter?

Voted "No" for Fairfax County to spend more money. When you're talking nearly $50M in budget surpluses, you should be able to get things done on that.

mlb Wrote:BTW, I voted yes on issue 4, and no on 5 :) (Ohio smoking laws). No reason that a business owner should lose his right to decide whether people can smoke or not in their establishment.

I voted no on both.

No on both is probably the right way to go, but I hate these local laws prohibiting bar owners from making their own decisions. If you don't like smoke, then don't go to a bar, especially a smokey bar.

absentee ballotted.

mlb Wrote:No on both is probably the right way to go, but I hate these local laws prohibiting bar owners from making their own decisions. If you don't like smoke, then don't go to a bar, especially a smokey bar.

I'm not sure if it is the right way or not. My thoughts were kind of contradictory.

I believe that people should have the sense to choose to go to less smokey restaurants. But I thought 3 was stupid because it overturned all the old smoking bans, and without reading all the details of the smoking bans I couldn't vote to overturn them. Plus I don't live in a locality that has a smoking ban. I suppose I could have abstained from 3. I guess I took the middle ground on this issue.

I couldn't believe how long it took me to vote. The turnout was unbelievable. It usually takes about 5 minutes for me to vote. Today it was 45 minutes. Blackwell wasn't trying to disenfranchise me, I think it's very indicative the dissatisfication of the electorate.

Machiavelli Wrote:I couldn't believe how long it took me to vote. The turnout was unbelievable. It usually takes about 5 minutes for me to vote. Today it was 45 minutes. Blackwell wasn't trying to disenfranchise me, I think it's very indicative the dissatisfication of the electorate.

Yeah, the Republicans finally showed up.

I voted this morning and had to wait 45 minutes to cast my ballot. "They" were obviously trying to disenfranchise me. ;-)

I voted by absentee in TN 3 weeks ago.

The fact that I had to "color in" my ballot probably tripled the amount of time it usually takes. Clearly an effort to disenfranchise those who can't stay in the lines. lmfao

I voted early. WE have the new machines that are touch screen. Quality, no problems, even saw my receipt.

Ninerfan1 Wrote:I voted early. WE have the new machines that are touch screen. Quality, no problems, even saw my receipt.

Same here and it was a, DDDIIIIIIIEEEEEBBBBBOOOOLLLLLDDDDDD! ;-)

have you guys heard of Tradesposrts. Supposedly they are a great indication of future events. Do you guys remember when Rumsfeld tried to put a futures on geopoltical events? Like you could put ten dollars down on Arafat not making it through the month. Things of this sort.

Well I can't get on it from school. Would anyone mind posting the odds of Webb winning Va. McCaskill winning Mo. and Ford winning Tenn. It's supposed to be the best way of handicapping a race.


.......and the disenfranchisemnet comment above was not to ridicule yours truly. Just a friendly reminder of how people in Cloumbus, Franklin Co.(I believe) had to wait over 8 hours to vote in 2004. Total B.S. IMHO. You do care about those sheningans don't you? Or are you of the belief that Democrats do far worse so anything my side does I'm ok with. Just like to know?

I just voted. Key votes:

- US House (SC District 4) - Dr. John Cobin (Libertarian)

- SC State Governor - Mark Sanford (Republican) ... one helluva good governor. He came to the state hosue holding pigs demanding the pork be cut from the state budget. He's also burning the colleges in this state a new a**hole, since we have the 5th highest spending per capita in state funds to colleges, yet still have among the highest tuition rates (and fastest increasing) in the nation.

- SC State Super. of Education - Jim Moultrie (Libertarian)

- I also voted down the SC State Lt. Governor, who used his position to weasel out of a 100+ mph speeding ticket. I took whoever the Democrat was opposing him.

- For any positions I didn't care / knew nothing about .. and no third parties ran: Republican

- SC Amendment One (banning gay marriage): No

- SC Amendment Two (allowing SC Senate to recess for 30 days by vote): No

- SC Amendment Three A (allow investment of state pension in oversea stocks): NO
- SC Amendment Three B (disband obsolete Investment Oversight Panel and its funds): YES

- SC Amendment Four (capping property tax): Yes

- SC Amendment Five (eminent domain ONLY for public use... economic development is NOT public): YES

I voted straight ticket Republican over here. Blackwell and DeWine are my guys!!!!! Woo hooo go Big Red

I'm not voting today.

I live in DC and I don't have the time today to wait in line when there is nothing to really vote for. We don't have voting representation in congress. And the Democratic Primary in September is actually the meaningful election in the district. The General Election is sort of just a formality. Had I had more time, I may have participated... but our elections here are completely meaningless.

Those of you who have actual representation, I urge you to use yor franchise, if only because those of us in DC can't (not that I entirely disagree with it -- Unlike 99% of the people who live here, I'm not a DC Statehood supporter).

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:The fact that I had to "color in" my ballot probably tripled the amount of time it usually takes. Clearly an effort to disenfranchise those who can't stay in the lines. lmfao

And what if you only had a red pen? The directions said no red pens allowed... clearly a racist move if I've ever seen one.

OUGwave Wrote:Those of you who have actual representation, I urge you to use yor franchise, if only because those of us in DC can't (not that I entirely disagree with it -- Unlike 99% of the people who live here, I'm not a DC Statehood supporter).

I think DC's general election votes should count toward Maryland's.

The fact that DC statehood people don't usually agree proves they have ulterior motives.

I voted. Most were unopposed Democrats.

Voted YES on approx. 80% tax raise on tobacco
Voted YES on stem cell amendment
Voted YES to raise minimum wage to $6.50

BamaBlazer Wrote:Voted YES to raise minimum wage to $6.50

You realize you're contributing to inflation, unemployment, and other negative economic forces, right?

BamaBlazer Wrote:I voted. Most were unopposed Democrats.

Voted YES on approx. 80% tax raise on tobacco
Voted YES on stem cell amendment
Voted YES to raise minimum wage to $6.50

Way to tell those evil tobacco companies. Now the laid-off employees of Phillip-Morris, RJ Reynolds, etc., can get good, high-paying(6.50 and hour) jobs at the local Circle K.

Ohio has an amendment that will tie Minimum wage to the Consumer Price Index. And they want it in the constitution. What a bad idea.

Eidt: Here it is...

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:

BamaBlazer Wrote:Voted YES to raise minimum wage to $6.50

You realize you're contributing to inflation, unemployment, and other negative economic forces, right?

Democrats don't realize that, GTS. They don't realize that a company can't just create it's own money to pay the extra wages. They will have to either A) Lay off an employee(s), or B) raise the cost of their goods, which, in many cases, is right at the competitive market price to begin with.

Good bye Mom and Pop's.

bunch of squirells ate some of the ballots or some thing in oklahoma. lmfao


i'm not making this up.

voted in my first election today. i was pretty psyched. i felt like i was actually doing something important.

flyingswoosh Wrote:voted in my first election today. i was pretty psyched. i felt like i was actually doing something important.

You were!



I haven't missed an election since I turned 18....

RebelKev Wrote:

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:

BamaBlazer Wrote:Voted YES to raise minimum wage to $6.50

You realize you're contributing to inflation, unemployment, and other negative economic forces, right?

Democrats don't realize that, GTS. They don't realize that a company can't just create it's own money to pay the extra wages. They will have to either A) Lay off an employee(s), or B) raise the cost of their goods, which, in many cases, is right at the competitive market price to begin with.

Good bye Mom and Pop's.

I think most people understand the implications of raising the minimum wage. The funny thing is the minimum wage needs to be raised many times because of other factors that effect inflation. So is your solution to allow the "invisible hand" to work? I have no problem with the laissez faire(sp) approach to economics myself, but since we now live in an instant gratification world, can it still work.

DrTorch Wrote:Dems rig elections in my area anyway, so what does it matter?

Heard something today that might make you smile.

When people are young, they tend to vote Democratic
When they get older, they tend to vote Republican.
When they are dead, they switch back to Democratic.

I might add, that here the dead are also polite enough to all show up exactly at closing time and vote in alphabetic order. ;-)

I voted early too. First time in a long time that I voted a straight ticket. Usually I can find some Democrats to vote for, especially as you get lower on the ticket.

We had an independent candidate for Governor here, an entertainer named Kinky Friedman. I don't want him running my state, but I will miss his sense of humor. One ad starts, "I'm Kinky Friedman and I'm 61 years old, too young for medicare and too old for women to care." When people got on his back for drinking a beer during a parade, he responded "I sipped but I did not swallow". Ah, Kinky, we hardly knew ya..

Yup, I voted to destroy the economy by paying people $6.50 an hour, voted to kill big tobacco by implementing an 80% higher tax, and voted to kill babies to use for scientific research.

and I voted for Claire McCaskill too

BamaBlazer Wrote:Yup, I voted to destroy the economy by paying people $6.50 an hour,

Well, set your mind at ease, because that will actually affect very few people. There is a sign on the door at my local fast food establishment asking for applicants at $8.50.

Of course, he is right, if it was a meaningful increase it would have exactly the effects he described.

Tulsaman Wrote:bunch of squirells ate some of the ballots or some thing in oklahoma. lmfao


i'm not making this up.

PLEASE find a link for that. It's hilarious! lmfao

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

DrTorch Wrote:Dems rig elections in my area anyway, so what does it matter?

Heard something today that might make you smile.

When people are young, they tend to vote Democratic
When they get older, they tend to vote Republican.
When they are dead, they switch back to Democratic.

I might add, that here the dead are also polite enough to all show up exactly at closing time and vote in alphabetic order. ;-)

Haha. I like that.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

BamaBlazer Wrote:Yup, I voted to destroy the economy by paying people $6.50 an hour,

Well, set your mind at ease, because that will actually affect very few people. There is a sign on the door at my local fast food establishment asking for applicants at $8.50.

Of course, he is right, if it was a meaningful increase it would have exactly the effects he described.

If I was a business owner, I would do the same thing. I believe it was Henry Ford who said,

"Paying my employees $5 a day (the competition was $2.50) was the best cost-cutting move I ever made."

I didn't vote as there wasn't much on the ballot here in Charlotte.

DrTorch Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:bunch of squirells ate some of the ballots or some thing in oklahoma. lmfao


i'm not making this up.

PLEASE find a link for that. It's hilarious! lmfao

it was on the local news here so i'll go look.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

BamaBlazer Wrote:Yup, I voted to destroy the economy by paying people $6.50 an hour,

Well, set your mind at ease, because that will actually affect very few people. There is a sign on the door at my local fast food establishment asking for applicants at $8.50.

Of course, he is right, if it was a meaningful increase it would have exactly the effects he described.

If I was a business owner, I would do the same thing. I believe it was Henry Ford who said,

"Paying my employees $5 a day (the competition was $2.50) was the best cost-cutting move I ever made."

Depending on your business, paying your employees better-than-market wages can actually be a cost-cutter, producing savings in turnover, traning time and expenses, and gains in employee productivity. And I know of companies where the best paid employees are not in the exectutive suites.

But overall, a meaningful hike in the minimum wage is inflationary. Just use a figure that is extreme to illustrate the effect. Let's say we raise the minimum wage to $100/hour. That's $208,000 a year, before OT. Everybody is rich now, right? Have we eliminated low income workers? No. Because everyone else in the economic chain will raise their prices/wages commensuately, and product costs (which are other people cost of living) will rise. That $3.95 burger will be $49.95. The $5.95 combo will be $84.95. And since taxes are based on graduated income, everybody's taxes as a percentage of income will rise. The lawyers will start charging $3500/hour - why should they work for minimum wage? The worker's bosses have to make more than their subordinates, right? And so on. Until a new equilibrium is reached, some businesses would fail and so workers would lose their jobs. Eventually we would reach an equilibrium again, with some some people again asking the question, how can a family of four exist on minimum wage, at only $208,000 a year? And someone will think the solution is to raise the minimum to $150/hour. And the big wheel keeps on turning....

I remember another one Rove said, the least educated vote Democrat, the average vote Republican and the higher eductated vote Democrat. He cited this as proof that you can have too much of a good thing.

DrTorch Wrote:

OUGwave Wrote:Those of you who have actual representation, I urge you to use yor franchise, if only because those of us in DC can't (not that I entirely disagree with it -- Unlike 99% of the people who live here, I'm not a DC Statehood supporter).

I think DC's general election votes should count toward Maryland's.

The fact that DC statehood people don't usually agree proves they have ulterior motives.

Well, we can't count towards Marylands because we aren't in Maryland. I mean, they are two separate jurisdictions... why not Virginia... why not North Carolina or Texas?

It isn't fair to Maryland, frankly.

But furthermore, the argument is that if the founding generation intended for DC to be a part of MD or VA, they never would have carved it out as a separate district. Therefore, if you believe that the capital should be a state, OR if you believe it should be part of another state, you are countering that intent. Both solutions (statehood and incorporating us into a nearby state) are flawed for that reason.

Your point about the fact that most national democrats wouldn't want DC to have representation if it were Republican-leaning is well taken. But the politicization of the issue doesn't mean that the issue of taxation without representation itself is legitimate.

Hence, as an opponent of both taxation without representation as well as DC statehood (lets face it, we're not a viable state, we have no economy outside of being a company-town for the federal government), I propose the following:

1) We don't get representation, but we don't have to pay federal income taxes either. Let the federal government apportion us all of the money for our budget. If we're good if enough to be taxed, we should deserve a vote. If not, don't tax us. I think thats fair, right? So let DC be a tax haven. I'm fine with that.

or

2) Everyone in DC gets to vote in whatever district they were born in. (Those born in DC get to register to vote in either Maryland or DC, whichever they choose.) Treat us all like we are transients. At least we then have SOME say in the House which determines taxation.

I think either of those are solutions that true conservatives and true liberals could agree with.

By the way, I did end up voting today. Eleanor Holmes Norton was unapposed for "delegate" to the house, and I voted for the democratic ticket elsewhere.

OUGwave Wrote:

DrTorch Wrote:

OUGwave Wrote:Those of you who have actual representation, I urge you to use yor franchise, if only because those of us in DC can't (not that I entirely disagree with it -- Unlike 99% of the people who live here, I'm not a DC Statehood supporter).

I think DC's general election votes should count toward Maryland's.

The fact that DC statehood people don't usually agree proves they have ulterior motives.

Well, we can't count towards Marylands because we aren't in Maryland. I mean, they are two separate jurisdictions... why not Virginia... why not North Carolina or Texas?

It isn't fair to Maryland, frankly.

But furthermore, the argument is that if the founding generation intended for DC to be a part of MD or VA, they never would have carved it out as a separate district. Therefore, if you believe that the capital should be a state, OR if you believe it should be part of another state, you are countering that intent. Both solutions (statehood and incorporating us into a nearby state) are flawed for that reason.

Your point about the fact that most national democrats wouldn't want DC to have representation if it were Republican-leaning is well taken. But the politicization of the issue doesn't mean that the issue of taxation without representation itself is legitimate.

Hence, as an opponent of both taxation without representation as well as DC statehood (lets face it, we're not a viable state, we have no economy outside of being a company-town for the federal government), I propose the following:

1) We don't get representation, but we don't have to pay federal income taxes either. Let the federal government apportion us all of the money for our budget. If we're good if enough to be taxed, we should deserve a vote. If not, don't tax us. I think thats fair, right? So let DC be a tax haven. I'm fine with that.

or

2) Everyone in DC gets to vote in whatever district they were born in. (Those born in DC get to register to vote in either Maryland or DC, whichever they choose.) Treat us all like we are transients. At least we then have SOME say in the House which determines taxation.

I think either of those are solutions that true conservatives and true liberals could agree with.

By the way, I did end up voting today. Eleanor Holmes Norton was unapposed for "delegate" to the house, and I voted for the democratic ticket elsewhere.

Either option 1 or 2 is fine with me.

Machiavelli Wrote:I remember another one Rove said, the least educated vote Democrat, the average vote Republican and the higher eductated vote Democrat. He cited this as proof that you can have too much of a good thing.

Ok, who let you out of your padded room?

It was in Time magazine. I thought it was a funny quote. He said it!

Machiavelli Wrote:It was in Time magazine. I thought it was a funny quote. He said it!

Show me a link.

Here's one

http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/widvrepubl...thing.html

"As people do better, they start voting Republican," Karl Rove is supposed to have said, "unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing."