In your opinion who is the biggest threat?
I have to go with the crazy guy in Iran. I really feel that once he attains a nuke, he will use it against Israel or one of our interests in the middle east.
Humans are the biggest threat to themselves. We hold in our own hands the power to save or destroy ourselves.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:Humans are the biggest threat to themselves. We hold in our own hands the power to save or destroy ourselves.
i think its stingrays. lmfao
niuhuskie84 Wrote:Humans are the biggest threat to themselves. We hold in our own hands the power to save or destroy ourselves.
Completely disagree, but considering that we always disagree that shouldn't be surprising. Remember the saying, "there are now enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world 12 times over".
Well, that's nonsense. Men couldn't destroy the world if they wanted to. In fact if all the leaders of the world decided they were going to end the human race, they couldn't do it. The world will end when God says it will end and not a moment before.
But, is there anything out there that could start WWIII? I'm sure glad I didn't have to live or fight in both major world wars against Germany and Japan. That would have been horrendous. When you consider how compromising our president is, he would never get us into a world war with a major power. Somebody would have to nuke us or come invade us before Bush would do anything. He certainly wont do anything if China invades Taiwan.
Endzone2 Wrote:The world will end when God says it will end and not a moment before.
I would have to go with Religious Literalist.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:Endzone2 Wrote:The world will end when God says it will end and not a moment before.
I guess that could be true if God decides to end it prematurely. The world will end only a matter of when. Planets are born and planets die. I guess after six days of work and then resting, God has been working ever since because there are new planets, stars and galaxies being created all the time. He must of taken his eye off of Earth because the place has gone to hell. My guess is he has a few billion planets with humans that he likes better then us.
OwlJacket Wrote:Graybeard.
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ShoreBuc Wrote:I would have to go with Religious Literalist.
Would basically be the same responses. Thanks.
GrayBeard Wrote:OwlJacket Wrote:Graybeard.
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ShoreBuc Wrote:I would have to go with Religious Literalist.
Would basically be the same responses. Thanks.
I am guessing if we broke it down you are probably not a hard core literalist. Modern day living makes it almost impossible to live literally by the OT
Non-denominational christians
Fanatical Wrote:Non-denominational christians
Guilty there as well. Why are they more dangerous than denominational Christians?
At least the Catholics can be kept in line, but the non-dems are free to warp scripture however they want.
I might be biased since I was born and raised Catholic.
Fanatical Wrote:At least the Catholics can be kept in line, but the non-dems are free to warp scripture however they want.
I might be biased since I was born and raised Catholic.
OK, but Catholicism is a seperate religion from Christianity. It uses much of the same ideaology as Christianity, but is not the same. Think along the lines of Mormons and Jehova's Witnessess. They all claim to be similar, but when you get down to it, they all are very much different.
GrayBeard Wrote:Fanatical Wrote:At least the Catholics can be kept in line, but the non-dems are free to warp scripture however they want.
I might be biased since I was born and raised Catholic.
OK, but Catholicism is a seperate religion from Christianity. It uses much of the same ideaology as Christianity, but is not the same. Think along the lines of Mormons and Jehova's Witnessess. They all claim to be similar, but when you get down to it, they all are very much different.
I think of those as denomination of Christianity
Fanatical Wrote:At least the Catholics can be kept in line, but the non-dems are free to warp scripture however they want.
I might be biased since I was born and raised Catholic.
The Catholics invented warping the scripture as they mutulated most of it and flat out forged some of it.
Remember this is the group that believed baby's are born without souls until they are baptized so if for any reason they die during child birth or are aborted they are doomed to eternal damnation.
They did come around to believing that the Earth was not the center of the Universe but that was not before murdering more then a few scientist as heretics.
Catholics are not Christians. I remember when I was a kid, we used to say the prayers, "Screw You, Jesus" and "Jesus is not God."
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Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:Catholics are not Christians. I remember when I was a kid, we used to say the prayers, "Screw You, Jesus" and "Jesus is not God."
lmfao
And for the record, I was born and raised Catholic, but now a proud agnostic.
GrayBeard Wrote:OK, but Catholicism is a seperate religion from Christianity. It uses much of the same ideaology as Christianity, but is not the same. Think along the lines of Mormons and Jehova's Witnessess. They all claim to be similar, but when you get down to it, they all are very much different.
Do what now?
Growing up in the Southern Baptist church, I heard the "Catholics aren't Christian", "Catholics don't believe in Jesus", "Catholics worship Mary" thing...alot. Being the son of a man with a Masters of Divinity, you'd think I would've heard different at home. You'd be wrong. The first girl I dated seriously in college was a Catholic and I had to have several conversations with people, including a preacher, his wife, and my dad, about why her conversion to Christianity was not necessary.
Catholicism is a Christian religion as much as any Protestant denomination is.
Fanatical Wrote:Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:Catholics are not Christians. I remember when I was a kid, we used to say the prayers, "Screw You, Jesus" and "Jesus is not God."
lmfao
And for the record, I was born and raised Catholic, but now a proud agnostic.
While you are laughing, I am sad to say that I have met many with the same story as yourself. There is something about the Catholic church that tends to spit up people and spit them out as atheist/agnostics.
Lethemeul Wrote:GrayBeard Wrote:OK, but Catholicism is a seperate religion from Christianity. It uses much of the same ideaology as Christianity, but is not the same. Think along the lines of Mormons and Jehova's Witnessess. They all claim to be similar, but when you get down to it, they all are very much different.
Do what now?
Growing up in the Southern Baptist church, I heard the "Catholics aren't Christian", "Catholics don't believe in Jesus", "Catholics worship Mary" thing...alot. Being the son of a man with a Masters of Divinity, you'd think I would've heard different at home. You'd be wrong. The first girl I dated seriously in college was a Catholic and I had to have several conversations with people, including a preacher, his wife, and my dad, about why her conversion to Christianity was not necessary.
Catholicism is a Christian religion as much as any Protestant denomination is.
Maybe I am wrong, but I stand by my statement. I do believe that are some Christians in the Catholic church, but I think they have messed up some of the basic parts of the Faith.
1) We don't need a "Father" (the Bible says call no man Father except for your father in heave) to intercede on our behalf.
2) The elevation of Mary and then saying that Mary remained a Virgin after Jesus' birth.
3) The Apocropha
4) The Pope in not necessary (I know, Peter was the first pope...I don't buy it)
etc.
I see Catholicism as being more a ritual than Christianity.
I'm actually happy for that. Allowing people to explore different ideas and not only one view. But everyone is welcome with the Catholics; it's "universal".
Quote:1) We don't need a "Father" (the Bible says call no man Father except for your father in heave) to intercede on our behalf.
2) The elevation of Mary and then saying that Mary remained a Virgin after Jesus' birth.
3) The Apocropha
4) The Pope in not necessary (I know, Peter was the first pope...I don't buy it)
etc.
Do you think Catholics do or do not believe these?
Fanatical Wrote:I'm actually happy for that. Allowing people to explore different ideas and not only one view. But everyone is welcome with the Catholics; it's "universal".
Yep, then there is "Universalism"....We are all gonna get there, so it just doesn't matter.
Fanatical Wrote:Quote:1) We don't need a "Father" (the Bible says call no man Father except for your father in heave) to intercede on our behalf.
2) The elevation of Mary and then saying that Mary remained a Virgin after Jesus' birth.
3) The Apocropha
4) The Pope in not necessary (I know, Peter was the first pope...I don't buy it)
etc.
Do you think Catholics do or do not believe these?
Catholics call there Priest's Father.
Catholics have elevated Mary.
Catholics use the Apocropha(sp).
Catholics have a Pope.
I don't think that any of that is right.
GrayBeard Wrote:Fanatical Wrote:Quote:1) We don't need a "Father" (the Bible says call no man Father except for your father in heave) to intercede on our behalf.
2) The elevation of Mary and then saying that Mary remained a Virgin after Jesus' birth.
3) The Apocropha
4) The Pope in not necessary (I know, Peter was the first pope...I don't buy it)
etc.
Do you think Catholics do or do not believe these?
Catholics call there Priest's Father.
Catholics have elevated Mary.
Catholics use the Apocropha(sp).
Catholics have a Pope.
I don't think that any of that is right.
Well, I have reservations against using the term "Reverend" when talking about a preacher as some Protestants do. Also, some churches do not take the Lord's Supper on a weekly basis and depend on some non-Bible books far too much(Left Behind
). I still think of them as Christian churches, though, so I give the Catholic Church the same treatment.
GrayBeard Wrote:Catholics call there Priest's Father.
Catholics have elevated Mary.
Catholics use the Apocropha(sp).
Catholics have a Pope.
I don't think that any of that is right.
True, but none of these together, or by themselves, mean they're not Christian. You can still be christian and have bad theology. I know several protestants with that issue.
GrayBeard Wrote:Catholics call there Priest's Father.
Catholics have elevated Mary.
Catholics use the Apocropha(sp).
Catholics have a Pope.
I don't think that any of that is right.
But it dosent necessarily matter if you agree with it or not. It falls under the definition. Christianity is a big blanket, and there are many different demoninations that fall beneath it. Catholisism is one of them. Same with Eastern Christianity, Protestantism, etc. However, the simplest definition is a belief in Jesus (being the messiah, and part of the trinity) and the New Testament. Thats Christianity. Of course, you're welcome to your own interterpretation, but I dont see how you can argue against the definition. Catholics are Christains.
Quote:OK, but Catholicism is a seperate religion from Christianity. It uses much of the same ideaology as Christianity, but is not the same. Think along the lines of Mormons and Jehova's Witnessess. They all claim to be similar, but when you get down to it, they all are very much different.
Again, thats simply wrong. you are skewing the definition of Christianity to your liking. You are a bilblical literalist. Thats a following of Christianity, just like everyone else who believes in the New Testament and Jesus.
There are many Jewish denominations that have different teachings. That dosent mean they're not Jewish, though.
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:The BCS.
how about the New york Yankees. and Stienbrenner?
Tulsaman Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:The BCS.
how about the New york Yankees. and Stienbrenner?
The Yankees arent a threat to anyone lmfao
eaglewing505 Wrote:GrayBeard Wrote:Fanatical Wrote:Quote:1) We don't need a "Father" (the Bible says call no man Father except for your father in heave) to intercede on our behalf.
2) The elevation of Mary and then saying that Mary remained a Virgin after Jesus' birth.
3) The Apocropha
4) The Pope in not necessary (I know, Peter was the first pope...I don't buy it)
etc.
Do you think Catholics do or do not believe these?
Catholics call there Priest's Father.
Catholics have elevated Mary.
Catholics use the Apocropha(sp).
Catholics have a Pope.
I don't think that any of that is right.
Well, I have reservations against using the term "Reverend" when talking about a preacher as some Protestants do. Also, some churches do not take the Lord's Supper on a weekly basis and depend on some non-Bible books far too much(Left Behind ). I still think of them as Christian churches, though, so I give the Catholic Church the same treatment.
I don't like the term Reverend either. I agree with all you said. I read most of the left behind books. They were good fictional works losely based on "end-time prophecy", but they should not become church doctrine. Another book that seems to be making a big splash into Christian churches and in some cases becomes the un-official doctrinal book is "Purpose Driven Life". The Bible should not be replaced by any other book. My church observes the Eucharist once a quarter. I wish they did it more often.
Let me also state that many "Christians" in Protestant Churches are not true "Christians" either. They are what I call "Sunday Christians". They show up for some guilt/social reason, listen to the sermon, head out the door and live like the world. A "Christian" is someone who's life is changed because of his Love for God and his thanks for receiving Grace.