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It seems the peaceful muslims are at their peace keeping attempts again. Let's see, they want the pope murdered. They are fire bombing churches, and oh, don't forget murdering nuns.

Should we generalize and judge everyone because of extremist wackos? If we did that, every religion would be in hot water for stupid things they do.

Fanatical Wrote:Should we generalize and judge everyone because of extremist wackos? If we did that, every religion would be in hot water for stupid things they do.

Please! I think they have proven over and over again that peace is not part of their plans. Also, their book teaches otherwise.

have you read the koran?

Tulsaman Wrote:have you read the koran?

Fully, no! Have I read parts of it, yes.

read the whole thing before we make generalizations. (and no i am not muslim if im anything i'm probably buddist)

Tulsaman Wrote:read the whole thing before we make generalizations. (and no i am not muslim if im anything i'm probably buddist)

Sure OK. Now what the heck will we talk about on this board?

why we are the way we are. lmfao

I have read the whole Koran some of the Hadiths and have read a lot of the Shia Law doctrine. It is a struggle to get through the Koran but easy to recognize that Muhammad merely copied a lot of existing religious law that was around during his time.
Most rational folks would call it out for the BS that it is. I would be the first to go to war inside America if wacko radical Christians were trying to take over.
If moderates in the Muslim world don't want to be labeled as extremist they need to stand up and be counted. They want an apology from the Pope for quoting part of a Byzantine Emperors writings while making a point against extremism of any kind. The Islamic wackos take that and run with it.
Will they apologize for burning in effigy and calling for the death of the leader of 1billion Catholics?? Hell no!! Do they apologise for stoning women to death for infidelity or hanging homosexuals?? No because they are wackos who follow a cult created by a fraud.

why i'm not big on any form of western religion.

Tulsaman Wrote:why i'm not big on any form of western religion.

Big difference is there is only one western religion that will lop your head off for having the opinions that you have.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al Qaeda in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. The authenticity of the statement could not be independently verified.

The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Fanatical Wrote:Should we generalize and judge everyone because of extremist wackos? If we did that, every religion would be in hot water for stupid things they do.

If the extremist wackos constitute only a few hundred out of hundreds of millions, the answer is no.


If they constitute tens of millions out of hundreds of millions, the answer is yes.

Why do the terrorist apologists refuse to admit the degree to which the "extremists" represent the mainstream in Islam?

why i am converting to eastern religion.

Tulsaman Wrote:have you read the koran?

Have you?

I think it is equally as important to read it before defending it.

But in any case, why get worked up on something you have no control over?

You're the one who felt 2800 deaths was insignificant.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:have you read the koran?

Have you?

I think it is equally as important to read it before defending it.

But in any case, why get worked up on something you have no control over?

You're the one who felt 2800 deaths was insignificant.

i'm not worked up over it. i'm just laughing my ass off at the whole thing.

Tulsaman Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:have you read the koran?

Have you?

I think it is equally as important to read it before defending it.

But in any case, why get worked up on something you have no control over?

You're the one who felt 2800 deaths was insignificant.

i'm not worked up over it. i'm just laughing my ass off at the whole thing.

You are seriously disturbed!

Tulsaman Wrote:have you read the koran?

have they?

it is not an exaggeration to say we are at war with these heathen fanatic killing machines.

those driving the medieval mesage of the murdering muslim bastards should be hunted and killed.

end of story.

nah.

i can just detach really really quickly from stuff.

Tulsaman Wrote:nah.

i can just detach really really quickly from stuff.

an important capability for those who are irrelevant.

Tulsaman Wrote:nah.

i can just detach really really quickly from stuff.

Like a psychopath?

i just don't allow stuff to bother me. there is no rational point to worry.

Tulsaman Wrote:i just don't allow stuff to bother me. there is no rational point to worry.

If you are a Tulsa Football fan you had better be worried about the Triple Option that Navy is going to jam down your throat.

Tulsaman Wrote:i just don't allow stuff to bother me. there is no rational point to worry.

What, me worry? --- Alfred E. Neuman.


I think your posts have effectively disqualiified anything you say from consideration by normal people. You are null and void.

if they loose they loose.

if they win they win.

Tulsaman Wrote:if they loose they loose.

if they win they win.

L-O-S-E!!!!! Not loose, you loser!!!

OptimisticOwl Wrote:You are null and void.

Horray! just what i always wanted.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

Tulsaman Wrote:if they loose they loose.

if they win they win.

L-O-S-E!!!!! Not loose, you loser!!!

lmfao

i deserved that one.

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine

OptimisticOwl Wrote:Why do the terrorist apologists refuse to admit the degree to which the "extremists" represent the mainstream in Islam?

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=248
Muslims do see the dangers of Islamic terrorism, both in the world and in their communities.

Just some interesting poll numbers here. Of course there is a wide disparity between Muslim and non-muslim countries.

Fanatical Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:Why do the terrorist apologists refuse to admit the degree to which the "extremists" represent the mainstream in Islam?

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=248
Muslims do see the dangers of Islamic terrorism, both in the world and in their communities.

Just some interesting poll numbers here. Of course there is a wide disparity between Muslim and non-muslim countries.

Interesting numbers. I don't think of numbers like 57% and 39% as representing extremism. Those number could be applied to the Republicans or Democrats in our country.

Extremists should be in the low single digits, not a majority or significant plurality. Extremists are the tail ends of the bell curve, not the middle. In larger numbers, they should be defined as mainstream, not extremist.

Of course, if you are talking actions instead of numbers, it is possible that extremists (defined as those advocating extreme measures as murder) could be mainstream (defined as a numerical majority or significant plurality). If you include all the Muslims who don't agree with the extremism but will not/do not oppose it, I think it is a religion dominated by the extremists.

Fanatical Wrote:Muslims do see the dangers of Islamic terrorism, both in the world and in their communities.

Exactly, but what are the peaceful Muslims supposed to do? Attack the extremists? Then more people will just scream about what a violent religion it is.

BamaBlazer Wrote:

Fanatical Wrote:Muslims do see the dangers of Islamic terrorism, both in the world and in their communities.

Exactly, but what are the peaceful Muslims supposed to do? Attack the extremists?

Here's what the peaceful Muslims should do.

Get very, very public with their opposition. Have rallies. Call press conferences, issue fatwas. How about a Million Muslim March for Peace?
How about local rallies featuring Muslim leaders condemning the violence on Islamic grounds?

Going home and saying tsk tsk does nothing. It fails to send the message that Muslims oppose violence. It does send a message of approval.

If you were to stand on a tall building and shout the most vile things, and somebody shouts back, "You're wrong", you know you don't have their approval. if nobody gainsays you, you feel supported.

Action. Noise. Visibility. That's what the peaceful Muslims should do. Make their voice heard, not only by the nonpeaceful Muslims, but the entire world.


BTW, does it strike anyone that we have to designata certain Muslims as "peaceful". never hear anyone talk about the "peaceful Christians" as a faction of christianity.

OptimisticOwl Wrote:never hear anyone talk about the "peaceful Christians" as a faction of christianity.

I've never met one.

BamaBlazer Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:never hear anyone talk about the "peaceful Christians" as a faction of christianity.

I've never met one.

You're a hermit?

OptimisticOwl Wrote:You're a hermit?

Yeah, pretty much.

ShoreBuc Wrote:

lmfao lmfao lmfao

That's great!