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The Original Four Horseman and Rickey Steamboat..These wreslters put on a great matches..Stemboat would have been huge today,but back then the WWF wanted steroid freak shows to draw the crowds..

Jerry "the king" Lawler.


TIGERBAKER

So many to choose from: Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, the Undertaker, Ted DiBiase, Honky Tonk Man, Eddie Guerrero, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Scott Hall, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Fred "Tugboat" Ottman, Shelton Benjamin, RVD, Carlito, Goldust, Gangrel, Big Boss Man, Mr. Perfect, Roddy Piper, Brittish Bullog, Rick "The Model" Martel, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, The Rock, Sabu.........the list goes on I can't choose just one.

That is easy for me

JYD - The Junk Yard Dog

Anybody who grew up in Memphis will say Jerry Lawler, and I'm no different..lol

Another guy who I'm partial towards, because I've watched his career practically from his very first match, is Jeff Jarrett.

One other guy who I can't leave off a list of favorite wrestlers is Cactus Jack, and I'm talking about the Cactus who probably gave some of the angriest promos I had ever seen before he got to the WWF in 96.

Ric "Whooooooooooooooooooo" Flair

Sting

Sting as well

The Universal Heartthrob...Austin Idol

The man they call STING!!!!!!!!!!!!

MongoSlade Wrote:Ric "Whooooooooooooooooooo" Flair

Flair was great for a long time...but he never adapted or improved.

Jericho was great, and brought himself up from mid-card/cruiserweight to a main event guy.

I loved the Road Warriors.

I loved both Kerry and Kevin von Erich.

Brock Lesnar is still a perfect speciman of a human being...I loved his early rivalry w/ the UT.

But, if I had to choose one wrestler...the guy who was a complete professional...the guy who was irrepressible on the mic....the guy who was athletic and improved his skills and moveset...the guy you just couldn't hold back w/ a rivalry w/ Vader...















The Rock.

DrTorch Wrote:

MongoSlade Wrote:Ric "Whooooooooooooooooooo" Flair

Flair was great for a long time...but he never adapted or improved.

Jericho was great, and brought himself up from mid-card/cruiserweight to a main event guy.

I loved the Road Warriors.

I loved both Kerry and Kevin von Erich.

Brock Lesnar is still a perfect speciman of a human being...I loved his early rivalry w/ the UT.

But, if I had to choose one wrestler...the guy who was a complete professional...the guy who was irrepressible on the mic....the guy who was athletic and improved his skills and moveset...the guy you just couldn't hold back w/ a rivalry w/ Vader...















The Rock.

The Rock is my boy too. A close second is HBK.

The Legion of Doom

The Road Warriors

Preface: The goal of professional wresting is to entertain me. With that in mind, the best ever is...

Ric "By GOD.... WHOOOOOOOO" Flair.

To the guy who said Flair never adapted or improved:
lmfao lmfao

The guy can, to this DAY, go out on stage and deliver a 5 (*****) snowflake promo and a 3 (***) snowflake wrestling match.

* He has adapted into a great ambassador for the business

* He'll be known and adored as the person single-handedly responsible for getting something out of Carlito -- that'll go down as his greatest achievement

* He can, in his late 50s, technically outwrestle 3/4s of the WWE locker room.

* He can, in his late 50s, captivate an audience. 3/4s of the WWE locker room can't do that.

* His 70s and 80s video montage outclasses 4/5s of the current WWE lockerroom

But he hasn't adapted or improved... lmfao lmfao

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Other wrestlers of note:
1) Shawn Michael -- the best going today, and would probably be the only person I'd put above Flair and Hogan

2) Kurt Angle -- every bit as crazy as old school Flair.

3) Hulk Hogan -- he's be higher if he didn't look like a stuff ironing board every time he returned to a wrestling ring these days

4) Christian (Cage) -- currently the best promo guy going and can wrestle a decent match.

5) Road Warriors -- Best. Tag. Team. Ever.

For those calling up the Rock: Had he returned to being a heel AND remained in wrestling, he would appear in my list.

The Rock couldn't be a heel; he'd be about as much as a heel as Steve Austin was. Even though Steve Austin did some heinous things as a "heel", he still got cheered like he was a face.

MongoSlade Wrote:Preface: The goal of professional wresting is to entertain me. With that in mind, the best ever is...

Ric "By GOD.... WHOOOOOOOO" Flair.

To the guy who said Flair never adapted or improved:
lmfao lmfao

The guy can, to this DAY, go out on stage and deliver a 5 (*****) snowflake promo and a 3 (***) snowflake wrestling match.

And I'll bet you that match is filled with WHOOO-chops, and the skit where he reels around the ring then falls on his face.

Flair's routine hasn't changed in 20+ years, except for the flip on the turnbuckle where he'd then run outside the ring and deliver a clothesline. That was a great addition 12-13 years ago.

* He can, in his late 50s, technically outwrestle 3/4s of the WWE locker room.

Flair is now slow and unconvincing, using the SAME move set he did 10, 20 and 30 years ago...except he blades even more now but rarely hits the figure four anymore.
Actually, everytime he does something a little different, he keeps it so long so it gets stale. That's why he's NOT the greatest.
And his technical abilities have declined too. Angle and Benjamin are far better, even Lesnar could do more. The Harts could do as much or more. So could Rick Steiner.
Besides, we're talking about NOW, not 20 years ago.

Most guys in the lockerroom have zero technical ability, they're just big. That's hardly a compliment.

Quote:* He can, in his late 50s, captivate an audience. 3/4s of the WWE locker room can't do that.

Flair used to be the epitome of arrogance, but now he "unravels" way too quickly in interviews, and has a psychotic rant that is uncomfortable, not entertaining.

Once again, he takes things too far, and they get old. I turn him off, even though I used to love him. Same thing w/ the 4 Horsemen. They'd deliver the same "swerve" finished w/ a beat down, so that it wasn't surprising, it was just tiresome. I turned them off eventually too. That's NOT entertainment.

And of course he can do that better than 3/4 of the locker room. No one said he wasn't great, just not the greatest.

Quote:* He has adapted into a great ambassador for the business

Flair has always been a top ambassador for the business. He didn't evolve.

Quote:* His 70s and 80s video montage outclasses 4/5s of the current WWE lockerroom

But he hasn't adapted or improved... lmfao lmfao

Which is exactly why you had to go back to his 70s and 80s work. Thanks for proving my point w/ your best effort.

Quote:2) Kurt Angle -- every bit as crazy as old school Flair.

Angle has done a great job.

Quote:3) Hulk Hogan -- he's be higher if he didn't look like a stuff ironing board every time he returned to a wrestling ring these days

Funny, you could say the same thing about Flair.

Quote:5) Road Warriors -- Best. Tag. Team. Ever.

Agreed. They had a huge impact on the business (think of Sting and Warrior's face paint, Ax&Smash, etc). They are a pair who caused the industry to evolve.

Some folks push the Pit Bulls, and while I think Perry Saturn was great, I'm not sure about that team. I'd put Harlem Heat as #2.

We'll agree to disagree about Flair. I think, taking his entire body of work into account, he's the best ever.

Road Warriors, we agree on.

Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

As for Flair, I can see both sides of the argument.

I'm not sure if I'd consider him to be one of the greatest TECHNICAL wrestlers, but in his heyday, NOBODY told a story inside the ring like the Nature Boy. And when it comes down to it, that's really all this business is about. Maybe it was because the audience was much more gullible twenty years ago, but Flair was capable of holding the crowd in the palm of his hand and making them want to murder him.

HornLakeTiger Wrote:Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

As for Flair, I can see both sides of the argument.

I'm not sure if I'd consider him to be one of the greatest TECHNICAL wrestlers, but in his heyday, NOBODY told a story inside the ring like the Nature Boy. And when it comes down to it, that's really all this business is about.

He was great no doubt. But, he told the same story every time. That's what grates on me. Flair, the Horesemen and Rhodes, abused the NWA for so long, they really crippled it.

Even after Flair went to WWF and back to WCW, he did the same thing. Same tired matches.
Even worse, he was always being catered to. I remember when Marcus Alexander Bagwell held the N American Title (or TV Title?)...Flair had to have a title, so they took it from Bagwell. No feud, no plotline. Bagwell was just making a name outside of his tag-team, and that really was the downturn of his career. He never had traction after that ('Buff' Bagwell got some heat, but it never amounted to much.)

Quote:Maybe it was because the audience was much more gullible twenty years ago, but Flair was capable of holding the crowd in the palm of his hand and making them want to murder him.

I think that's part of it. Flair was better than most others at that time. Rhodes and Race were just fat... and the WWF was pushing brawn and bulk for their main events. Guys like Steamboat, Kevin von Erich, Savage or even Hart, weren't given much attention.

HornLakeTiger Wrote:Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

Who was in the Pit Bulls? I never saw ECW back in that era.

DrTorch Wrote:Even worse, he was always being catered to. I remember when Marcus Alexander Bagwell held the N American Title (or TV Title?)...Flair had to have a title, so they took it from Bagwell. No feud, no plotline. Bagwell was just making a name outside of his tag-team, and that really was the downturn of his career. He never had traction after that ('Buff' Bagwell got some heat, but it never amounted to much.)

That is the only reason that I miss the lesser belts (European Title, TV title, etcc.). I always thought that those were great ways to bring the younger guys on and get them some heat. Now the young guys come in go for one of the bigger titles or try to develop rivalries with guys who way outclass them. That keeps me from being able to get behind and support a lot of the younger guys coming in.

DrTorch Wrote:

HornLakeTiger Wrote:Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

Who was in the Pit Bulls? I never saw ECW back in that era.

They were simply known as Pit Bull #1 and Pit Bull #2.

Gary Wolfe, aka Pit Bull #1, is on the right in this picture.

Anthony Durante was #2.

Durante was found dead on September 24, 2003 from an overdose of Fentanyl.

Hi Everyone..

My all-time favorite wrestler is HHH "The Game".
He is too good in the ring and its also nice in DX "D-generation X".

My favorite wrestler of all time is "Stone Cold".

What a great question! I've been a pro wrestling fan for over 40 years...I've seen a lot of greats in my time...If I can only name one, I'll have to go with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, hands down. As many times as I've been to the Civic Center Coliseum for various sporting events, I've heard roaring ovations from packed crowds in there before, but never have I heard such an earth-shaking response from a sellout crowd at the BJCC as I did when the "glass" broke over the PA system and "Stone Cold" came down the ramp for his main event match, that was a few years back, but it left an indelble , indescribable impression, I knew right there and then, this was a legend in our midst...Birmingham always finds a way to squander a golden opportunity, if there's one sport that fans turn out in droves for, it is pro wrestling...We could've hosted a "Wrestlemania" in our time if this city had made all the right moves correctly, but, no, we bungled it...I think it's too late now, that ship has sailed...


"Matrix"

(11-17-2009 09:08 PM)Matrix Wrote: [ -> ]What a great question! I've been a pro wrestling fan for over 40 years...I've seen a lot of greats in my time...If I can only name one, I'll have to go with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, hands down. As many times as I've been to the Civic Center Coliseum for various sporting events, I've heard roaring ovations from packed crowds in there before, but never have I heard such an earth-shaking response from a sellout crowd at the BJCC as I did when the "glass" broke over the PA system and "Stone Cold" came down the ramp for his main event match, that was a few years back, but it left an indelble , indescribable impression, I knew right there and then, this was a legend in our midst...Birmingham always finds a way to squander a golden opportunity, if there's one sport that fans turn out in droves for, it is pro wrestling...We could've hosted a "Wrestlemania" in our time if this city had made all the right moves correctly, but, no, we bungled it...I think it's too late now, that ship has sailed...This was a tougher question to answer than you think, had I not selected Austin, it would have been without a doubt..."The Undertaker"...


"Matrix"

(02-27-2007 11:38 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

MongoSlade Wrote:Ric "Whooooooooooooooooooo" Flair

Flair was great for a long time...but he never adapted or improved.

Jericho was great, and brought himself up from mid-card/cruiserweight to a main event guy.

I loved the Road Warriors.

I loved both Kerry and Kevin von Erich.

Brock Lesnar is still a perfect speciman of a human being...I loved his early rivalry w/ the UT.

But, if I had to choose one wrestler...the guy who was a complete professional...the guy who was irrepressible on the mic....the guy who was athletic and improved his skills and moveset...the guy you just couldn't hold back w/ a rivalry w/ Vader...















The Rock.

phenomenal choice...Even though I picked "Stone Cold" in my earlier post, scanning the other posts to see who everyone else selected, I knew I was going to be fascinated by several of them, and this is one of them...I smell what you're cookin'! I miss that era with The Rock, Goldberg, The Nation of Domination, The Brood (Edge and Gangrel), DOA, The Entire Degeneration X Faction (including Chyna and the New Age Outlaws), my goodness, I could go on and on, they & TNT Monday Nitro had Monday Night Football on its' heels in the ratings for years ...It's kind of depressing what has happened to the scene since a lot of the big names like The Rock, Stone Cold and Goldberg,to name a few, were no longer in the mix, & with all of the tragedies/deaths that have taken place within it, the Chris Benoit thing really broke my heart, he was one of my favorites...

It's not that much fun to watch anymore...for me, anyway...

(09-29-2009 07:50 AM)jhonmartin Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Everyone..

My all-time favorite wrestler is HHH "The Game".
He is too good in the ring and its also nice in DX "D-generation X".

A True Hall Of Famer if ever there was one! Without question, one of the toughest to ever set foot in the ring, I remember on at least two separate occasions, HHH sustained devastating injuries in matches, but kept performing until the matches reached their conclusion.

He is absolutely incredible...Another excellent selection of a favorite wrestler.

(02-21-2007 07:32 PM)DC Tiger Fan Wrote: [ -> ]The man they call STING!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was at a Monday Nitro session at the BJCC when WCW was building up steam for a Hogan-Sting match...Sting took the long way down to the ring to confront JJ Dillon, I'll never forget it, he came thru the crowd from the middle section of the Coliseum, it took him almost 15 minutes to get to the ring because the crowd just flat out mobbed him, but if I recall right, he did this without the benefit of a security escort, & the crowd that night just went wild! Outside of the "Stone Cold" ring entrance I witnessed at that very same venue a few months later,that was among the most exciting moments I'd ever witnessed at the Civic Center...Sting was, and still is, one of the most awesome pro wrestlers of all-time...Fantastic choice on your part...

(03-02-2007 02:22 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]

HornLakeTiger Wrote:Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

Who was in the Pit Bulls? I never saw ECW back in that era.

I saw Perry Saturn during his WCW tenure, excellent ring technician, and I loved his finishing move, "The Rings Of Saturn"...Like Saturn, WCW had some outstanding talent (Glacier, Ernest Miller, Wrath, Mortis, the luchadore who used to crown people with chairs, the called him "The Chairman of WCW- I can't remember his name, he wore a mask! He was very entertaining) but squandered them foolishly trying to keep pace with WWF (WWE - I hate that!)...

Anyone here remember from WCW, a wrestler named "Maxx Payne?" His finishing move was called "The Payne Killer..."

(03-02-2007 11:54 AM)HLT 2011 Wrote: [ -> ]Perry Saturn was one half of the Eliminators, not the Pit Bulls.

As for Flair, I can see both sides of the argument.

I'm not sure if I'd consider him to be one of the greatest TECHNICAL wrestlers, but in his heyday, NOBODY told a story inside the ring like the Nature Boy. And when it comes down to it, that's really all this business is about. Maybe it was because the audience was much more gullible twenty years ago, but Flair was capable of holding the crowd in the palm of his hand and making them want to murder him.

It's just my opinion, but I think as far as pro wrestling has gone, style always seemed to tip the scales over substance...I remember watching Ric Flair as a teenager at Boutwell, fans couldn't stand his butt, they wanted to see him get greased, and his wrestling style wasn't all that flamboyant, but his gift with fans in the stands was more than enough to carry him thru one of the most glorious careers a pro wrestler could ever hope for, the catch phrase, "Wooooo!!!!" will always be synonymous with Flair, no one, and I mean no one, will ever be able to use that to their advantage in the ring - EVER! He is one of the most adored figures in the sport, even if you wanted to see him get his clock cleaned sometimes, the man could put on an incredible show!

I've yet to see a Mick Foley/Mankind/Cactus Jack/Dude Love post here...What's up? I'm stunned!

(08-25-2006 08:16 AM)HLT 2011 Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody who grew up in Memphis will say Jerry Lawler, and I'm no different..lol

Another guy who I'm partial towards, because I've watched his career practically from his very first match, is Jeff Jarrett.

One other guy who I can't leave off a list of favorite wrestlers is Cactus Jack, and I'm talking about the Cactus who probably gave some of the angriest promos I had ever seen before he got to the WWF in 96.

One of my favorite matches of all-time involved Jerry Lawler and Kerry Von Erich - that match was 100% classic!!! And I just got thru posting that I have yet to see a Foley/Cactus Jack post, that just changed...Words elude me when I try to describe his feats in the ring, that "Hell In A Cell" thing with the Undertaker still resonates big time with me..."BANG-BANG!" He is absolutely tremendous, good of you to mention him, he definitely deserves some acknowledgement...

(08-25-2006 08:16 AM)HLT 2011 Wrote: [ -> ]Another guy who I'm partial towards, because I've watched his career practically from his very first match, is Jeff Jarrett.

Amazing! Jeff Jarrett can really work a crowd! He is phenomenal!!!

I will never forget the weekend that the Tennessee Titans had beaten the Buffalo Bills in a playoff game on a miraculous play during the kickoff...How's this for irony? The following Monday, WCW was scheduled to be in of all places...Buffalo, New York...When Jeff Jarrett came down that aisle for his match wearing that Tennessee Titans jersey, I laughed so hard for so long, I fell off my sofa, & I had to go outside for some air, I don't I stop laughing that night until I went to bed later on...To this day, just thinking about it cracks me up, when I saw his name on your post...He really knows how to push a fan's button, and that stunt he pulled in Buffalo was right on time...But didn't "Chyna" whip his *** in a match when they were both at WWF?

Just the same, Jeff Jarrett's one of my favorites as well...Great of you to acknowledge him...

(08-24-2006 09:02 AM)uhmump95 Wrote: [ -> ]That is easy for me

JYD - The Junk Yard Dog

"GRAB THEM CAKES!!!" JYD...Rest In Peace...

There is a long list of my favourites: Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michael, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, and The Undertaker. The last two and my most favourite of all the wrestlers are The Rock and John Cena.