08-11-2006, 01:34 AM
I hope he wins in a landslide... if either party tries to do a mafia hit on a member who isn't voting by the strict party line (*gasp*) ... they need their head chopped off on the spot.
08-11-2006, 01:34 AM
08-13-2006, 06:05 PM
georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:I hope he wins in a landslide... if either party tries to do a mafia hit on a member who isn't voting by the strict party line (*gasp*) ... they need their head chopped off on the spot.
Well, he lost. The people of CT have spoken and they said we need a change. We need someone who believes in what we do. Lieberman is a casualty of his position on the war but I also think there was a lot of the idea we need a fresh approach in a do-nothing Congress. This is just the beginning of throwing out of the incumbants.
08-13-2006, 11:49 PM
RobertN Wrote:The people of CT have spoken and they said we need a change.
Not at all. This was just the Democratic primary. It may shock you to learn that many of the people of Connecticut are Republicans and Independents, and even a lot of the Democrats voted for Joe. The people of Connecticut will speak in November.
08-15-2006, 09:40 AM
He should have switched parties a long time ago. He is a moderate republican at heart and with his vote. At what point is it vanity to continue even though his own party has voted him out?
08-15-2006, 02:35 PM
On the news shows they were saying that Lieberman voted the Party (Dem) line 90% of the time.....not sure you can say with certainty that he's a republican at heart.
08-15-2006, 07:59 PM
Being a Republican myself and having seen Lieberman's voting record I can say without hesitation the man is not a Republican at heart. Hell the Republicans from the northeast are the first one's to bolt from the party line to represent their constituents form of Republicanism much less a liberal Democrat from the northeast.
Connecticut voters have always had a large number of Independent registered voters. By percentage Independents in CT are far more numerous then most states. Lieberman has always done well with them. The Republicans in CT realize their candidate has zero chance so they will vote for Lieberman as well over the far left option.
The Dems, Howard Dean and Moveon.org will portray Lieberman as a puppet for GWB and VP Cheney eventhough 6years ago he was the Democratic party's choice to be a heartbeat away from President. Pathetic political smearing at it's worse but the Dems desperately want the Senate even though there is very little chance of them winning it since there are only 33 Senate seats up for grabs with only a handfull competitive according to most recent polls.
Connecticut voters have always had a large number of Independent registered voters. By percentage Independents in CT are far more numerous then most states. Lieberman has always done well with them. The Republicans in CT realize their candidate has zero chance so they will vote for Lieberman as well over the far left option.
The Dems, Howard Dean and Moveon.org will portray Lieberman as a puppet for GWB and VP Cheney eventhough 6years ago he was the Democratic party's choice to be a heartbeat away from President. Pathetic political smearing at it's worse but the Dems desperately want the Senate even though there is very little chance of them winning it since there are only 33 Senate seats up for grabs with only a handfull competitive according to most recent polls.
08-19-2006, 06:00 PM
I saw recently where Lieberman is expected to get approximately 75% of the vote from registered Republicans. I think he'll sit in office yet again it what will turn out to be one of the strangest elections on paper.
As a Dem, it's kind of tough when you see so many factions of the party moving so far to the left that they could be easily confused with the Greenies. It's disconcerting to see such an effort to oust a sitting Senate member from one's own party simply because he's one of the few with a non-far-left stance on the role of our military in protecting our nation.
In short, if this is the way the Dems are moving, I would expect to see another 3rd party form that would encompass the views of the conservative liberals and liberal conservatives (or, I could have just said "moderates" and been done with it). Although, I wouldn't expect to see such a party until after the 2008 election.
As a Dem, it's kind of tough when you see so many factions of the party moving so far to the left that they could be easily confused with the Greenies. It's disconcerting to see such an effort to oust a sitting Senate member from one's own party simply because he's one of the few with a non-far-left stance on the role of our military in protecting our nation.
In short, if this is the way the Dems are moving, I would expect to see another 3rd party form that would encompass the views of the conservative liberals and liberal conservatives (or, I could have just said "moderates" and been done with it). Although, I wouldn't expect to see such a party until after the 2008 election.
08-20-2006, 10:33 PM
JTiger Wrote:He should have switched parties a long time ago. He is a moderate republican at heart and with his vote. At what point is it vanity to continue even though his own party has voted him out?
Why? Because he supports the war? Are you f'n serious? Maybe he's sick and tired of his own countrymen and fellow Jewish people being killed by Muslim extremists. That ever cross your mind? He's ALWAYS been strong on defense. He IS, however, very liberal when it comes to social issues. Now please, call JFK, Roosevelt, and other Democrats "Moderate Republicans" now. Hell, go a step further and tell us the "True" Democrats are nothing but puss-ies when it COMES to national defense.
08-20-2006, 10:37 PM
You know, to be honest, JTiger, you came off as a moderate Dem in the past. Now, you're bashing Joe. Are you a moderate? If not, how old are you, seriously? Because you seem to be lost on what you actually believe and follow. You seem to be easily manipulated. That is, you hear something and come here and regurgitate what you hear. Hell, at least Schad and other liberals here actually believe what they believe. What you are doing is a true sign of youth.
08-21-2006, 09:35 AM
I think the new Republican strategy should be to have Bush kiss every moderate Democrat who has a chance of reigning in the mess the Democratic party is on its way to becoming.
08-21-2006, 09:41 AM
uhmump95 Wrote:I think the new Republican strategy should be to have Bush kiss every moderate Democrat who has a chance of reigning in the mess the Democratic party is on its way to becoming.
I think that is a great idea....
Based on the public opinion of GWB, the Dems should have really seized the opportunity to do something, but I have yet to see it. If things don't work out the way they want this and next Nov., they really only have themselves to blame.
08-21-2006, 11:27 PM
uhmump95 Wrote:I think the new Republican strategy should be to have Bush kiss every moderate Democrat who has a chance of reigning in the mess the Democratic party is on its way to becoming.
Bush really SHOULD kiss the asses of the moderate Democrats. Afterall, that's EXACTLY what he's acting like.
08-24-2006, 02:57 PM
RebelKev Wrote:You know, to be honest, JTiger, you came off as a moderate Dem in the past. Now, you're bashing Joe. Are you a moderate? If not, how old are you, seriously? Because you seem to be lost on what you actually believe and follow. You seem to be easily manipulated. That is, you hear something and come here and regurgitate what you hear. Hell, at least Schad and other liberals here actually believe what they believe. What you are doing is a true sign of youth.
Still haven't cheered up any have you Kev? I am not at all bashing Joe. He has his beliefs and they are not in line with what his constituents want, so he lost, democracy in action. The fact is that most people in the country are opposed to the war right now and he made it very clear in the build up to Iraq and after when we didn't find WMD's that he didn't care about the reason he just wanted Saddam out. That struck a chord with his voters and we see the result. I think he's an okay guy in general but I disagree with his policy on Iraq, he seems to have tunnel vision on that. To be clear, we have made a mess there even if we shouldn't have gone in, which is obviously up for debate, and we need to stay to clean up the mess we made to prevent groups like the Taliban from taking over the government like happend in Afghanistan. I hope that clears it up for you Kev, make no mistake I'm quite moderate, I may even vote for a republican senator in the up coming election in TN, how about that?
11-07-2006, 11:16 PM
OptimisticOwl Wrote:RobertN Wrote:The people of CT have spoken and they said we need a change.
Not at all. This was just the Democratic primary. It may shock you to learn that many of the people of Connecticut are Republicans and Independents, and even a lot of the Democrats voted for Joe. The people of Connecticut will speak in November.
So, Robert, what did the people of Conn say today?