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This one is simple.

Predict the number of seats the Democrats will gain in the House of Representatives.

Predict the number of seats the Republicans will gain in the Senate.

If you think the party will lose seats, simply enter a negative number.

How far you are off on each will be added up to produce a team score. Lowest team score wins. Very similar to the scoring of the Stock Market Challenge.

Failure to enter will result in your score being calculated as follows:
A random team member's score will be taken, then multiplied BY TEN to achieve your score.

As a bonus, predicting the correct winner in each of the following close races will result in your score being reduced by one. So if you were off by a total of 7, and got a bonus right, your score would then be a 6.

As usual, edited posts are invalid.

TIME DEADLINE FOR ENTRY: 7 AM, EST, Tuesday

Bonus Races:
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Governor, South Carolina:
Incumbent Jim Hodges (Dem.) vs. Mark Sanford (Rep.)
- Main Issues: Education, School Vouchers, Gas and Income tax

Senate, Missouri:
Incumbent Jean Carnahan (Dem.) vs. Jim Talent (Rep.)
- Main Issues: Abortion, Social Security, Health Care

Senate, North Carolina:
OPEN SEAT (vacated by Jesse Helms)
Elizabeth Dole (Rep.) vs. Erskine Bowles (Dem.)
- Main Issues: School Vouchers, Jobs, Textile Industry



<!--EDIT|georgia_tech_swagger|Nov 3 2002, 08:02 PM-->
Deadline? Tuesday morning?
yes, 7 AM EST
changed



<!--EDIT|nate jonesacc|Nov 5 2002, 04:55 AM-->
Republicans pick up 6.

Democrats pick up 8.

Sanford, Carnahan, Bowles.
cant_think_of_a_witty_name Wrote:Republicans pick up 6.

Democrats pick up 8.

Sanford, Carnahan, Bowles.
I assume your first line is for the house?
I sure hope people don't let their bias get in the way of who they actually think will win
Republicans pick up 6 in the Senate.
Democrats pick up 8 in the House.

When I wrote them down on a piece of paper I put them out of order. Forgive me for my ambiguity and stupidity. After this round I'm thinking it won't be a problem again. :laugh:
Oh good lord...what's next? The Gross National Product of every single third-world country.

Like I really know what I'm talking about but oh well...

Democrats lose 10 spots in HOR.

Republicans gain 7 in senate.

Sanford, Talent, Dole.

Tasha
# of seats Dem will gain in House----4
# of seats GOP will gain in Senate---2

Bonus:
So. Carolina--Sanford
Missouri-------Talent
No. Carolina--Dole


Simple for whom btw????????????????????
Rebel_Rx Wrote:Simple for whom btw????????????????????
simple in terms of rules and how the game works. I'm not going to give you cupcake challenges... DUHHHH :)
Rep. get 2 in the Senate

Dems get 3 in House

close races

SC: Jim Hodges

Missouri: Jim Talent

NC: Elizabeth Dole
Dems lose 5 in the House.

Reps gain 4 in the Senate

Bonus:Hodges, Talent, Dole


Ummmm, yea ok, yea those are my picks!::incredibly questions self if I even half-way looked like I know what I'm talking about:: 03-confused
Just to throw a wrench in the works, what happens when the seats are so close it has to go to a runoff (La)? What happens when the contest goes to court with nobody declared a winner??? Just wondering........
I doubt that will happen, but if it does those races won't be counted. Almost like they didn't exist.
Dem +2 House
Rep +0 Senate

Hodges
Carnahan
Dole
georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:I doubt that will happen, but if it does those races won't be counted. Almost like they didn't exist.
Think so huh? Thousands of lawyers just a waitin......
DEM - 2
REP + 3

Sanford
Carnahan
Dole
Dems -4 HOR
Rep +5 Senate

Bonus: Sanford, Talent, Dole
Dem +4 in House
Rep +2 in Senate


Bonus:
SC - Hodges
MO - Carnahan
NC - Dole
Judging by some of the picks, it seems to be some people here dont follow politics (not that that's a bad thing, heh :goldie: )
How dare you question my political savvy? I'll have you know I did a report on Jimmy Carter when I was a senior in high school. I'm down wit tha governmental shiznit yo. 03-cool

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Maybe they read something other than the Washington Post and the NY Times.
House - Democrats gain 2 seats.. Republicans maintain control

Senate - Goes down to 7 states.
Missouri - Talent &reg; wins
Colorado - Allard &reg; wins
South Dakota - Thune &reg; upsets Johnson (though Thune's ahead in polls)
New Hampshire - Sununu &reg; beats Shaheen barely..no gain though
Texas - Cornyn &reg; beats Ron Kirk
Minnesota - Too damn close to call... with the way the Wellstone 'memorial' went.. I hope Norm Coleman wins. But MN is a liberal state and I'll take the safe route and pick Mondale barely.

And unfortunately... in Arkansas - Pryor (D) will knock off Hutchinson

With NH and TX being vacated by GOP, that makes it +2 GOP overall. Republicans gain control.

So overall... House - Dem +2, Senate GOP +2

And Bonus... Hodges, Talent, and Dole

WPS
Repubs get 2 in the Senate

Democrats get 3 in House
If you don't think the repubs are getting it done tomorrow, you got another thing comin...
I hope there are upcoming challenges (if I am fortunate to still be around) which won't make me look/feel like a friggin' moron. :laugh: I'll hand it to ya, GTS. You are making us earn everything so far.
Republicans lose 1 seat in the Senate.

Dems gain 1 seat in the house.

Hodges
Carnahan
Dole
Repubs get 5 in the Senate.

Democrats lose 6 in the House.

Seems Bush's treks and his Repub campaign haven't been quite as successful as I thought.

I still got Dole, Talent and Hodges, though.
reps p/u two seats in the Senate
Dems p/u three seats in the house.

Hodges, Talent and Libbie
Day after election could be confusing
Some races might not be settled for weeks
Monday, October 28, 2002 Posted: 5:47 PM EST (2247 GMT)





WASHINGTON (AP) -- On the morning after Election Day, Hawaii voters may well wake up to find they've re-elected a congresswoman who died in September. And those in Alaska a governor who would then quit as their senator -- and appoint his own replacement.

In Missouri, there could be a battle over when the Senate victor takes over. And in Louisiana, a senator running for re-election could far outdistance her opponents and still face a runoff in December.

From the blue waters of the Pacific to the bayous of Louisiana, November 5 voting may produce results that will have both Republicans and Democrats scratching their heads for weeks beyond November 6.

In Hawaii, for example, Democrats are asking voters to elect the late Rep. Patsy Mink, who died on September 28, two days after the deadline to remove a name from the ballot. In that race, the voting a week from Tuesday is only the start.

If she wins, a special election to fill her seat will take place on January 4 for the next Congress. In the meantime, there will be a November 30 election to fill the last month of her term for Congress' post-election "lame-duck" session. Her widower is a candidate in that election, but he isn't running in the campaign for the full term.

Senate control, both for the lame-duck session and for the next two years could be caught up in uncertainty long after next Tuesday's results are in.

In Louisiana, Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu is expected to get the most votes as she runs for re-election against eight other candidates, including four Republicans. But if she gets less than 50 percent of the total, she'll end up in a December runoff with the No. 2 vote-getter. Recent polls show her in the mid-40s with more than 10 percent still undecided.

Then there is Missouri. Two years ago, Sen. Jean Carnahan was appointed to fill the seat won posthumously by her husband, Democratic Gov. Mel Carnahan, who was killed in a plane crash just before the election.

It's now time for voters to decide if Mrs. Carnahan serves out the remaining four years in her late husband's term or if Republican Rep. Jim Talent gets the job. If Talent should win, he could be sworn in almost immediately, rather than in January like most new senators.

Following the death of Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minnesota, last week, Republicans and Democrats each hold 49 seats. Control of the Senate remains in Democratic hands because Vermont Sen. Jim Jeffords, an independent, votes with Democrats.

A Talent win would give the Republicans a one-seat majority for the lame-duck session, when Congress returns after the election to complete unfinished business.

That said, Talent's seating is subject to ballot certification by Missouri's governor -- and Bob Holden is a Democrat.

"The law is so vague that it may allow Holden to delay," says Saint Louis University political science professor Kenneth Warren.

However, Spence Jackson, spokesman for Missouri's Secretary of State, a Republican, says, "I think the pressure coming from the general public, from all Missouri voters regardless of party, would be very, very intense" for Holden to quickly sign certification.

Even if the GOP does gain a majority with a Talent win, Senate control could flip once more before the new session starts in January.

If Republican Sen. Frank Murkowski of Alaska wins his race for governor, he plans to resign from the Senate at noon on December 2, leaving his seat vacant. So even with a Talent win, the chamber would go back to the Democrats, if only for a short time.

The Alaska succession law requires at least five days between a senator's resignation and the governor appointing his replacement, said Bob King, spokesman for Democratic Gov. Tony Knowles. King said the law was passed "just purely to allow Frank Murkowski to pick his own successor should he be elected governor."

Knowles is barred by term limits from running this year.

Among other uncertainties after Election Day:
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:
Rebel_Rx Wrote:Simple for whom btw????????????????????
simple in terms of rules and how the game works. I'm not going to give you cupcake challenges... DUHHHH :)
but i thought you wuved me 03-wink
As GTS said, any races that aren't settled the night of the election or at least the day after simply won't be counted. That goes for the bonus races, too. Carnahan, Dole, Hodges, etc
All team members have successfully entered before the deadline.

The following results are most beneficial for each team:

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TEAM WINDOWS:
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Democrats lose 1 seat in the House of Representatives
Republicans gain 4 seats in the Senate

Bonus Races:
Governor, South Carolina: Sanford &reg;
Senate, North Carolina: Bowles (D)
Senate, Missouri: Talent &reg;


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TEAM LINUX:
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Democrats gain 2 seats in the House of Representatives**
Republicans gain 2 seats in the Senate**

Bonus Races:
Governor, South Carolina: Incumbent Hodges (D)
Senate, North Carolina: Dole &reg;
Senate, Missouri: Incumbent Carnahan (D)

** = the math came out VERY close, and if the party gained one less seat than I put, it really wouldn't hurt all that much.
Dole won and I picked it but it didnt count! :frown:
Laettner's Legacy Wrote:Dole won and I picked it but it didnt count! :frown:
I thought more Windows members picked Dole than Bowles, oh well...
Update from Washington Post:

<a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/elections/2002/senate/' target='_blank'>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/polit...ns/2002/senate/</a>

Dem -2 House (1 undeclared)

Rep +2 Senate (1 undeclared)

Sanford
Talent
Dole
+3 for the Rep. on the house.
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