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Well in his past 4 games he has averaged about 14 ppg, 7.5 apg and 4 spg.... I'd say K was right on.

29% from 3 pt land this season. Homeslice can't even hit ft's anymore....53% from the line.

The master of deflection huh... nice of you to show up finally... neglect my post... post more of your crap which is irrational...
Where were you after FSU? WVU? Gonzaga?

Probably staying up till 2:30 watching some team play waterpolo or something!

29% from 3 actually equates 43.5% from inside the arc... which is actually a fairly good percentage.

WTF is wrong with you... way to start a thread which makes you look like an ******.

YR GMS MIN PTS REBAST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
2003-04 12 34.2 9.8 4.1 6.3 2.5 2.5/1 2.8 0.2 1.4 .528 .536 .296 1.31
2002-03 32 36.0 9.2 3.2 6.5 3.0 2.2/1 1.9 0.2 1.7 .385 .677 .274 1.15


Duhon has improved in nearly all of those categories....

Typical terp...

You would think that after 2 posts with no response Nate would realize that no one gives a ****** about what he thinks but it took a third. :rolleyes:

The bottom line is that players like Jarret Jack, Chris Paul, and Raymond Felton all rank as better ACC point guards than Chris Duhon in my book.

but you're forgetting that Duhon doesn't have to be great. he just has to be able to distribute the ball, because he's got weapons like Reddick and Deng.

The point is Duhon shoots a pitiful 29% from beyond the arc, if you cant hit 30% maybe you should stop firing. Duhon needs to get a clue.

He may be 8/27 on the season, but if a guy is hot, you don't have him stop shooting just because of a low percentage. You can't just look at season stats. Break it down:

Yes, Chris had a horrible first 8 games:
Vs. Detroit 1-3
Vs. Pacific 1-1
Vs. Liberty 1-3
Vs. Purdue 0-1
Vs. MSU 0-2
Vs. St. John 0-1
Vs Portland 0-2
Vs. Princeton 0-2
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Total 3-15 or 20%


Since then, and over the last 4 games:

Vs. Texas 1/1
Vs Davidson 2/3
Vs Clemson 0/2 (the exception)
Vs. Fairfield 2/5
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Total 5/11 or 45%.

With these numbers in mind, I think a smart coach would have the hot man shooting, just like a smart coach sticks with the hot goalie in hockey.

Your just talking trash about Duhon cause he's a Duke player and your just simply hateful. Plain and simple.

G&^%(*&W_#R)

Amen Thomas.

It's as simple as this. Coach K told Chris to shoot more, and he did... His percentages have gone up. That's all there is to it.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 5 three-pointers over a four game stretch isn't a hot hand

5/11 is scorching... seriously. That's similar to shooting 68% from inside the arc.

5/11 over a four game span. You can't tell me that averaging just over one 3pter per game in the past four is hot.

45% is scorching and Steve Blake shot 42% last year.

Yeah... I always liked Steve Blake's game. He was outstanding.

For Duhon, who last year shot 26%, that is hot.

Im pretty sure if I wanted to I could dig up a quote or two of you bashing Blake. :laugh:

Do it. I seriously doubt I have ever bashed Dixon or Blake.

Duhon seems to have gotten out of his funk. I dont know what happened to the kid. Coming out of HS he was a heck of a shooter. I still would not want him taking the last shot in a game, but he is heads and shoulders above what he was last year.

And if anyone honestly thinks that John Gilchrist or (especially) Chris Paul are better than Duhon, you obviously know very little about college basketball. No one realizes how much Duhon means to this Duke team. He is by far the most valuable player for Duke. Duhon COULD be putting up big numbers, but it would detract from the team. What you guys don't notice is that Duhon doesn't give a d amn about stats. All he cares about is the team, and seeing as he has the possibility of being one of the top 5 winningest players in Duke history, I would say he is accomplishing what he has set out to do.

Like many opposing fans have said both on TDD, DBR and to my face... Duhon has sacrificed any chances he had to be a lottery pick for Duke basketball. Every team needs one of him. An underrated player who gives up everything he has for the team. IMO, Rashad McCants is more talented than Chris Duhon. But who would I rather have on my team? Chris Duhon by a mile.

IMO, this is how the ACC PGs rank.

Raymond Felton
Chris Duhon
Jarrett Jack
John Gilchrist
Chris Paul
Julius Hodge
The rest.

I think this is what happened to Duhon.

HS - Amazing shooter, great scorer, and pretty good passer

Freshman year - No pressure, young freshman who nothing is expected from, has a great year.
Sophomore year - premature talk of "best backcourt ever" puts a ton of pressure on him to be like JWill, which never could have happened. Instead of trying to be a player in the Duke system, he tried to be a player in the JWill-Duhon system. Had a decent year.
Junior year - Duhon felt like he had to be the leader. Instead of letting the senior Dahntay take the leadership role, he tried to take some of the power. The team never developed an identity. Duhon also took too many threes, and the other team lost respect for it, so they played off of him. This made it harder for him to drive. His whole game was out of rhythm. Still had a nice assist year, just not to his potential.
Senior year - Takes a true leadership role, but realizes finally that he still has to score to be a leader. Starts penetrating... leads to more assists, points and a more in-rhythm offensive flow.

BTW, if any of you still think Duhon sucks... You also think the #3 all time assist leader at Duke sucks... and possibly soon-to-be #2 all-time Duke leader. Also has a good chance to be all-time @ Duke for steals and is already #2 all time in assist/TO ratio.
For a college that has had guards like Bobby Hurley, Johnny Dawkins, Jason Williams, William Avery among others... I'd say he's pretty freakin good.

Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duhon

And I know a lot more about college hoops than you do.

No way in hell do you know a lot more about college hoops than I.

MICHAEL JONES IS BETTER THAN ANY DUKE WING PLAYER!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

"And as far as Mike Jones is concerned, from what I remember only Lebron and Charlie Vilenueva and maybe Shannon Brown were more impressive than Jones in the All-American game. Deng was too much of a ***** to play in the game. JJ is probably a better shooter than Jones but Jones is a much better athelete and can get to the rim, something that JJ cant do at all. Ewing is a good player but please his main claim to fame is being TJ Fords teammate in highschool, as far as talent is concerned he is no where close to Jones."

"Mike Jones is gonna make many a posters out of JJ. JJ is a great shooter but he is the shooting guard equivalent of a stiff. He cant play man defense, he is slow, and as Drew Nicholas proved if you chase him around the court and keep a hand in his face he cant score. What is JJ going to do when Mike Jones jumps right over him and throws down with his balls all over JJ's rat lookin face? "

JONES is gonna make posters out of JJ from the BENCH??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Terpy?

Chris is definitely starting to play the way people expected him to play. Unfortunately they expected stuff like this in his sophmore year. Either way, I'll take 15 from him any day and 7 assists = 14 pts. If he keeps these stats every game from now on, consideration for NPOY, but probably can't win it.

Do me a favor Nate, go look up how much point Mike Jones scored in his last game. Now tell me whether or not any Dukie has scored more than that in a game this season.

Terpy... You are ridiculous.

1) He dropped 25 on MARYLAND EASTERN SHORE! One of the WORST TEAMS IN DIVISION 1! :rolleyes:

2) EVEN WITH THAT GAME... He is GARBAGE compared to Ewing, Deng and Redick.

3) Why don't we judge an entire season on one performance against one of the worst teams in division 1?

You didnt answer my question Nate.:rolleyes:

Why couldn't any of your beloved Dukies drop 25 against Portland State? :rolleyes:

Jones can score and given the opportunity he proved it. He will be All ACC before he is finished here.

1) We never played Portland St.

2) None of Duke's players have dropped 25 because a) this team is the most balanced Duke team I have witnessed (maybe not 98) and b) against cupcakes... Duke plays its scrubs.

3) I GUARANTEE YOU that if Coach K wanted for Luol, Shelden, JJ, Daniel or Chris to drop 25 against a cupcake, it would happen.

Now that I have answered your questions... respond to my last post.

This is the first time Jones has played significant minutes.

And why the **** do you think that is?

I'll answer for you.

Because he is a garbage player this year! Gary put him in against a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE team to build up his confidence.

There are AT LEAST 2 other freshmen on Maryland better than him.

Duhon had 2 more assists today than the entire #3 team in the country.

Obviously something is working correctly for him.