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Why is Duke playing Valpo in February?

Terpy Wrote:
Why is Duke playing Valpo in February?

whydid state play washington?
why did rutgers play northern colorado?

these kinds of things happen.

Terpy Wrote:
Why is Duke playing Valpo in February?

To get Duke ready for the kind of opponent they will play early in the NCAAs.

Because we wanted an easy win. 03-razz :D

Tasha
we said "yes"
They wanted to beat up on a cupcake before they go down to Tallahassee and get sliced and diced for a third year in a row. 03-wink :laugh:
07-ninja

Because there are 9 teams in the ACC and they need practice while the other 8 are playing each other. And what Tasha said.

nate jonesacc Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:
Why is Duke playing Valpo in  February?

To get Duke ready for the kind of opponent they will play early in the NCAAs.

Are you serious? if so.... :stupid:

why not?
[quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] Why is Duke playing Valpo in
[quote="flyingswoosh"] [quote="Terpy"] Why is Duke playing Valpo in
And just because Duke romped them don't automatically assume Valpo sucks. They aren't a great team by any means but something has to be said for being #1 in your conference.
[quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] Why is Duke playing Valpo in
[quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] Why is Duke playing Valpo in
That is BS. If you really need to practice playing teams who earn automatic bids why doesnt every consistent top ten team play Valpo or Holy Cross in February? :stupid:
terpy, i can't believe you are criticizing duke for playing valpo, when Duke's SOS rank is second best in the ACC and 5th in the nation.

Terpy Wrote:
That is BS. If you really need to practice playing teams who earn automatic bids why doesnt every consistent top ten team play Valpo or Holy Cross in February? :stupid:

Does every consistent top 10 team have 3 NCs and 10 final fours?

Seems Duke's strategy is working better than almost everyone else's.

flyingswoosh Wrote:
terpy, i can't believe you are criticizing duke for playing valpo, when Duke's SOS rank is second best in the ACC and 5th in the nation.

Im criticizing them for playing a cupcake in February. Care to venture a guess who's schedule is the toughest in the ACC? 03-razz

[quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] That is BS.

Terpy Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:
terpy, i can't believe you are criticizing duke for playing valpo, when Duke's SOS rank is second best in the ACC and 5th in the nation.

Im criticizing them for playing a cupcake in February. Care to venture a guess who's schedule is the toughest in the ACC? 03-razz

Well when you are 7th in the ACC, you can be playing NBA teams... If you suck, you suck.

Valpo is not a cupcake. I don't consider any team in Div. 1 who is #1 in their conference a cupcake.

[quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] That is BS.
[quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] That is BS.

nate jonesacc Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:
terpy, i can't believe you are criticizing duke for playing valpo, when Duke's SOS rank is second best in the ACC and 5th in the nation.

Im criticizing them for playing a cupcake in February. Care to venture a guess who's schedule is the toughest in the ACC? 03-razz

Well when you are 7th in the ACC, you can be playing NBA teams... If you suck, you suck.

Valpo is not a cupcake. I don't consider any team in Div. 1 who is #1 in their conference a cupcake.

Does 3-7 out of conference mean anything to you???

I'll make a wager...Valpo will not win their conference and under no circumstances will they get an atlarge bid.

[quote="flyingswoosh"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] That is BS.

flyingswoosh Wrote:
i agree. Coach K is a much better coach than smith ever was.

wow, first off, i don't think that was what nate was talking about... secondly, wow...



:rolleyes:

[quote="Terpy"] [quote="flyingswoosh"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] [quote="nate jonesacc"] [quote="Terpy"] That is BS.

tarheelsben1 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:
i agree.  Coach K is a much better coach than smith ever was.

wow, first off, i don't think that was what nate was talking about... secondly, wow...



:rolleyes:

You're right... I was talking about something different.

Terpy... I'll take your bet AND are you gonna keep that post?

Hell yes you little . 05-nono please do not do that again

tarheelsben1 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:
i agree.  Coach K is a much better coach than smith ever was.

wow, first off, i don't think that was what nate was talking about... secondly, wow...



:rolleyes:

i meant, i agree to the first thing nate said. and i put in the K and smith thing for my own benefit. I should have spaced them out.

And I have more examples.

John Thompson and Jim Boheim are notorious for making wuss schedules but even those guys would never schedule.

If that isnt good enough Bob Knight also has 3 NCs and he never scheduled a team like Valpo in ****ing February so that he would be ready to play them in the tourney. :rolleyes:
I guess being the all time winningist coach all time and having a higher winning percentage than K doesnt mean anything. :rolleyes:
Bring it little boys. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Terpy Wrote:
I guess being the all time winningist coach all time and having a higher winning percentage than K doesnt mean anything. :rolleyes:

i guess championships means nothing. And the fact that smith coached a lot longer than K, so far. Dean Smith always got the best players, but only won 2 championships.

flyingswoosh Wrote:
only won 2 championships.

:rolleyes:

11 > 10 btw

Terpy Wrote:
11 > 10 btw

11>10, what? head to head?

Terpy Wrote:
11 > 10 btw

, btw

(why not this thread is going down the crapper anyway)

Final Fours...

Terpy Wrote:
Final Fours...

oh, i had no idea. 1) don't get me wrong, smith was a great coach. 2) that is a slanted statistic, because smith coached for 8 years more than K has.

Mike 3
Dean+Bill+Matt+Roy=2

Terpy Wrote:
And I have more examples.

John Thompson and Jim Boheim are notorious for making wuss schedules but even those guys would never schedule.

If that isnt good enough Bob Knight also has 3 NCs and he never scheduled a team like Valpo in ****ing February so that he would be ready to play them in the tourney. :rolleyes:

Your logic is inconsistent. If you are going to use Dean Smith and John Wooden as examples of excellence that K should emulate, then Boeheim and Thompson (who have both been far less successful than K) are examples to HELP my argument.

You made the claim that Wooden, Smith and Bobby Knight all never scheduled teams like Valpo late in the season. You made the claim... You have the burden of proof. Where is it?

nate jonesacc Wrote:
Your logic is inconsistent. If you are going to use Dean Smith and John Wooden as examples of excellence that K should emulate, then Boeheim and Thompson (who have both been far less successful than K) are examples to HELP my argument.

The fact that K is a better coach than those guys had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

Learn how to read before you post.

Terpy Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:
Your logic is inconsistent. If you are going to use Dean Smith and John Wooden as examples of excellence that K should emulate, then Boeheim and Thompson (who have both been far less successful than K) are examples to HELP my argument.

The fact that K is a better coach than those guys had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

Learn how to read before you post.

What the hell point were you trying to make?

That K should model his strategy after people less successful than he?

And still waiting for Dean and Wooden proof!
For the record, Bob Knight was staunchly against scheduling out of conference foes during the conference season. It may have happened, but he was very much against doing it. Different strokes.

Terpy Wrote:

Learn how to read before you post.

:stupid:

nate jonesacc Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:
Your logic is inconsistent. If you are going to use Dean Smith and John Wooden as examples of excellence that K should emulate, then Boeheim and Thompson (who have both been far less successful than K) are examples to HELP my argument.

The fact that K is a better coach than those guys had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

Learn how to read before you post.

What the hell point were you trying to make?

That K should model his strategy after people less successful than he?

Dean Smith and Wooden are less successful than K?? wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where's the emoticon for "head up a.s.s." syndrome!

K has had a pretty good 14 year run. Smith had a pretty good 30 year run.

36 years - 879-254

Who is K aiming at for most wins by a college coach??

Quote:
Under Smith, the Tar Heels won at least 20 games for 27 straight years and 30 of his final 31. No coach in history has ever produced that many consecutive 20-win seasons. In fact, no other coach has even won 20 games for 27 years.


A 28-7 finish in his last year also gave Smith an NCAA-record 22nd season with at least 25 wins. Fresno State's Jerry Tarkanian ranks second in 25-win seasons with 14 and former UCLA Coach John Wooden is third with 11.


From 1981 to 1989, Carolina was ranked in the final Top 10 of both the Associated Press and coaches' polls each year. That nine-year run is the second-longest streak of Top-10 finishes in history, exceeded only by UCLA's 13-year string from 1967 to 1979.


In an era of tremendous competitiveness in the college game, the Tar Heels were ranked among the nation's final Top 15 teams 28 of the past 31 seasons, missing only in 1970, 1990 and 1996 and were among the Top 10 on 23 occasions during that period. Kentucky was second on the list with 23 appearances in the Final Top 15. Carolina teams coached by Smith finished the season ranked
No. 1 in at least one of the two major polls four times (1982, 1984, 1993 and 1994).


Smith's teams were also the dominant force in the Atlantic Coast Conference, arguably the nation's strongest overall basketball league. The Tar Heels under Smith had a record of 364-136 in ACC regular-season play, a winning percentage of .728.


The Tar Heels finished at least third in the ACC regular-season standings for 33 successive seasons. In that span, Carolina finished first 17 times, second 11 times and third five times.


Those 17 first-place finishes are the most ever by an ACC coach. Frank McGuire ranks second with six regular-season ACC titles.


In 36 years of ACC competition, Smith's teams finished in the conference's upper division all but one time. That was in 1964 when UNC was fifth and had its only losing record in ACC regular-season play under Smith at 6-8.

Contrast that 36-year record of league success with the fact that since 1977 every other ACC school, with the exception of Florida State which has only been in the league six years, has finished last at least once in the regular-season standings.

Carolina's sweep of the 1997 ACC Tournament was its 13th under Smith. Former coaches Vic Bubas of Duke and Everett Case of N.C. State rank second in ACC Tournament titles with four each.

When Carolina advanced to the NCAA Final Four last season, it marked the 11th trip for one of Smith's teams to the national semi-finals. Only Wooden, with 12, has been there more often.

Smith's teams made a record 23 consecutive appearances in the NCAA Tournament. Georgetown's John Thompson has the second-longest streak in history at 15.


In his last 31 years Smith guided the Tar Heels into the NCAA Tournament 27 times. That's the most in history. Indiana's Bob Knight is second with 22 appearances.


From 1981 through 1993 Carolina reached the Final 16 of NCAA play every season. That 13-year streak is the second-longest in Tournament history to a 14-year stretch by UCLA from 1967 to 1980.

jrhessey Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:

nate jonesacc Wrote:
Your logic is inconsistent. If you are going to use Dean Smith and John Wooden as examples of excellence that K should emulate, then Boeheim and Thompson (who have both been far less successful than K) are examples to HELP my argument.

The fact that K is a better coach than those guys had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

Learn how to read before you post.

What the hell point were you trying to make?

That K should model his strategy after people less successful than he?

Dean Smith and Wooden are less successful than K?? wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where's the emoticon for "head up a.s.s." syndrome!

K has had a pretty good 14 year run. Smith had a pretty good 30 year run.

36 years - 879-254

Who is K aiming at for most wins by a college coach??

Quote:
Under Smith, the Tar Heels won at least 20 games for 27 straight years and 30 of his final 31. No coach in history has ever produced that many consecutive 20-win seasons. In fact, no other coach has even won 20 games for 27 years.


A 28-7 finish in his last year also gave Smith an NCAA-record 22nd season with at least 25 wins. Fresno State's Jerry Tarkanian ranks second in 25-win seasons with 14 and former UCLA Coach John Wooden is third with 11.


From 1981 to 1989, Carolina was ranked in the final Top 10 of both the Associated Press and coaches' polls each year. That nine-year run is the second-longest streak of Top-10 finishes in history, exceeded only by UCLA's 13-year string from 1967 to 1979.


In an era of tremendous competitiveness in the college game, the Tar Heels were ranked among the nation's final Top 15 teams 28 of the past 31 seasons, missing only in 1970, 1990 and 1996 and were among the Top 10 on 23 occasions during that period. Kentucky was second on the list with 23 appearances in the Final Top 15. Carolina teams coached by Smith finished the season ranked
No. 1 in at least one of the two major polls four times (1982, 1984, 1993 and 1994).


Smith's teams were also the dominant force in the Atlantic Coast Conference, arguably the nation's strongest overall basketball league. The Tar Heels under Smith had a record of 364-136 in ACC regular-season play, a winning percentage of .728.


The Tar Heels finished at least third in the ACC regular-season standings for 33 successive seasons. In that span, Carolina finished first 17 times, second 11 times and third five times.


Those 17 first-place finishes are the most ever by an ACC coach. Frank McGuire ranks second with six regular-season ACC titles.


In 36 years of ACC competition, Smith's teams finished in the conference's upper division all but one time. That was in 1964 when UNC was fifth and had its only losing record in ACC regular-season play under Smith at 6-8.

Contrast that 36-year record of league success with the fact that since 1977 every other ACC school, with the exception of Florida State which has only been in the league six years, has finished last at least once in the regular-season standings.

Carolina's sweep of the 1997 ACC Tournament was its 13th under Smith. Former coaches Vic Bubas of Duke and Everett Case of N.C. State rank second in ACC Tournament titles with four each.

When Carolina advanced to the NCAA Final Four last season, it marked the 11th trip for one of Smith's teams to the national semi-finals. Only Wooden, with 12, has been there more often.

Smith's teams made a record 23 consecutive appearances in the NCAA Tournament. Georgetown's John Thompson has the second-longest streak in history at 15.


In his last 31 years Smith guided the Tar Heels into the NCAA Tournament 27 times. That's the most in history. Indiana's Bob Knight is second with 22 appearances.


From 1981 through 1993 Carolina reached the Final 16 of NCAA play every season. That 13-year streak is the second-longest in Tournament history to a 14-year stretch by UCLA from 1967 to 1980.

No, buddy, more successful than Boeheim and Thompson.

Terpy?

Terpy Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:

Learn how to read before you post.

:stupid:

Ive said it twice now. :bang:

Don't you hate it when you make a total ****** out of yourself? :laugh:
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