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The Mississippi game, no matter what happens will not make or break our season and in the unlikely event that we lose I would hope our team will be able to bounce back. Understanding, that there is much bigger things at stake this year than how we fare against Mississippi.

I merely made this post because Mississippi fans hate their school and team refered to as Mississippi. That and I no longer feel like working today. :wave:

They don't like it because they can't spell it.

From the heart, Ole Piss game is so important.
From the brain, USM and U of L is more important.

USM and UL games are very important. The Mississippi game is for office bragging rights only. USM and UL games are for championships.

fsquid Wrote:USM and UL games are very important. The Mississippi game is for office bragging rights only. USM and UL games are for championships.

You are right, none of my business associates are ul or usm fans but several associates and a couple of my clean up guys are webel fans.

"fsquid Posted on Aug 19 2004, 10:29 PM
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USM and UL games are very important. The Mississippi game is for office bragging rights only. USM and UL games are for championships. "


Beating Yellow Britches and Papa Johns will only make you king of the hill of the cookie cutter conferences. The whole southeast knows this and will interested in seeing whether you can beat Ole Miss twice in a row. Lose to Ole Miss and the rest of your season is worth little in the eyes of the rest of the football world even if you were to win out. Trying to downplay that fact is only going to make September 4th that much worse for Tiger fans who have never made the trip down to experience the guaranteed loss in Oxford.

Facts are that overcoming Ole Miss last year was the best thing to ever happen to Memphis football aside from hiring Tommy West. You were mentioned on ESPN a few times and also given some football coverage to go with it that was beneficial. In many ways this year is infinately more important to your cause than last year's game. You have a lone chance in 2004 to take down a BCS team, so we'll see real quick if you are legit or not.

Actually, quite the opposite. IF you happen to get lucky and beat us it will be a very bad loss for us as we have a better team than you, and when we beat you nobody will care because you guys are usually bottom dwellers in the $EC, and aside from the odd 30 year eclipse when someone like Elisha comes along; nobody even knows who you are outside of the trailer park.

At the end of the year, beating USM and Louisville will be a better measuring stick than beating your 5-6 team.

alienrunt, our mention on espn has nothing to do with beating ole miss. it is about a team who hadnt been to a bowl game in many years. the preseason hype is due to the entire offensive unit returning. you know that unit that put up 40 plus on the mighty rebs. its funny to hear ole miss think of themselves that highly. the only thing about ole miss football that is first class is the grove.

just so u know i would give up the ole miss game in a second if someone said we would be guaranteed the liberty bowl. the only reason to win the ole miss game is to shut up some sec fans who think entirely to highly of their team. you guys are ole miss not florida or lsu.

Quote:and when we beat you nobody will care because you guys are usually bottom dwellers in the $EC

Yeah, thats right, we've only had 7 winning seasons in a row.

Quote:just so u know i would give up the ole miss game in a second if someone said we would be guaranteed the liberty bowl.

Now that's just sad, it shows the low level of your football program, To Ole Miss the Liberty bowl is a lower tier bowl, to you it is the summit.

Quote: sec fans who think entirely to highly of their team. you guys are ole miss not florida or lsu.

Sure am glad we're not Forida, seeing as we beat their asses the past 2 years. Oh, we have won 3 of the last 5 with LSU also. Damn, listening to you makes me optimistic for the 2004 Rebel season.

UM_REBEL Wrote:  Yeah, thats right, we've only had 7 winning seasons in a row.

How many times have you been to Atlanta...champ?

Quote:To Ole Miss the Liberty bowl is a lower tier bowl, to you it is the summit.

And what bowls did you go to in those seven years of winning seasons?

Quote: Sure am glad we're not Forida, seeing as we beat their asses the past 2 years.

The Ron Zook legecy.... :laugh:

Quote:Oh, we have won 3 of the last 5 with LSU also.

As did Bama while under SEVERE sanctions from the NCAA.

Your chest-thumping is getting pretty weak...<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Impact'>'neck.</span></span></span>

Quote:Lose to Ole Miss and the rest of your season is worth little in the eyes of the rest of the football world even if you were to win out.

Yup, I hate the publicity that Miami of Ohio got after losing to Iowa last year. I would absolutly hate for the Tigers to get those mentions. Memphis is on ESPN 3 times in 4 weeks in November, we will not have any problems getting our "name out".

At least we weren't called "runts" on national TV.

Yeah, Ole Miss deserves credit for finishing as strongly as they did. Only problem is, that Eli fellow is long gone along with several defensive starters. Granted you have a good offensive line, Spurlock will need it. I don' t care how many games you win or lose, or how many you have won in years past, don't think for a second that September 4th is a given. History is just that. History.

You are way overinflating the importance of the Mississippi football program on the national media. I would go so far as to say heading into this year we are more of a national media darling than Mississippi is.

in fact if we were playing Tennessee-Knoxville in Memphis this year the Mississippi game would be absolutely meaningless other than the opportunity for all of our employees who are Mississippi fans to give us a little grief if we lose. Of course as usual we will laugh good-naturedly and send them for another cup of coffee.

Joe_Tiger Wrote:You are way overinflating the importance of the Mississippi football program on the national media. I would go so far as to say heading into this year we are more of a national media darling than Mississippi is.

No one knows who the Rebels are outside of the Southeast. They won't admit that, but its true. Of course, if we didn't have the basketball program that we have, no one would know us either.

Quote: other than the opportunity for all of our employees who are Mississippi fans to give us a little grief if we lose. Of course as usual we will laugh good-naturedly and send them for another cup of coffee.

Yeah, nothing like ordering those doctors and lawyers around. Isn't Memphis State a teachers colllege? Something like that, anyway I don't even know what Memphis State is there for. Tell me, how many Rhodes scholars does Memphis State have? My guess is the same number of bowl wins.

hey man relax Mississippi is a fine regional school. Your garden variety education from there is something you should not be ashamed of. No need to be insecure.

according to the Rhodles Scholar website, none of us had any.

<a href='http://www.rhodesscholar.org/' target='_blank'>linkage</a>

by the way, that is Oxford, England on that site, not the place down south.

Hey guys I am new this flaming stuff how am I doing. :wave:

UM_REBEL Wrote:

Quote: other than the opportunity for all of our employees who are Mississippi fans to give us a little grief if we lose. Of course as usual we will laugh good-naturedly and send them for another cup of coffee.

Yeah, nothing like ordering those doctors and lawyers around. Isn't Memphis State a teachers colllege? Something like that, anyway I don't even know what Memphis State is there for. Tell me, how many Rhodes scholars does Memphis State have? My guess is the same number of bowl wins.

I guess you think that everyone that graduates from Miss. is a doctor or a lawyer and that everyone that graduates from Memphis is a teacher?

I graduated from Memphis, I am a lawyer, and I have Miss. graduates (who are not lawyers) working for me.

You probably never even graduated.

whoops, I correct myself. Mississippi has had one, in 1999. Wow, 1-0, congrats.

UM_REBEL Wrote:Tell me, how many Rhodes scholars does Memphis State have? My guess is the same number of bowl wins.

my guess is that you don't even know what a Rhodes scholar is.

also, I saw that Old Miss was recognized as the 10th best 'party school' in the Country. Congrats. At least your school is given credit for what it deserves...a place for drunks, potheads, and frat rats.

oh, and since you say OM has been so successful in the SEC, would you please tell me how many times OM has finished ABOVE .500 since the SEC split into two divisions??

I asked rebeljon, but I guess he forgot.

on a final note, i had to laugh at your disparaging the Liberty Bowl. Other than the Cotton Bowl, OM hasn't played in a better bowl than the Liberty since you rolled over and bit the pillow against Michigan in the Gator Bowl back in the early 90's.

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Deangelo just scored again.

An education is an education.......Unless you went to Harvard or some other Ivy league school, fill that pie hole with something else (to no one in particular).........


At least yall have a degree or are in the process of getting one.

sorry to ruin the fun.......


Can't we all just get along?? :sleep:

Yea,how about the automechanics building they have.I hear it's second to none. :rofl:

Wow, must of hit a nerve there, don't remember getting this many responses to a post before. Memphis State is a "nothing special" school, with no national identity whatsoever in academics or athletics. Try as you may, you will always be a third tier school that looks up to Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt. Do you really want to discuss bowls? Try this link, I notice Mempho coming in at a powerful #91 ranking, congrats.

<a href='http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/bowls/team_records_most_wins.php' target='_blank'>BOWLS</a>

Or this link, you don't make the cut in this one, you see, 2 bowl appearances isn't that much.

<a href='http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/bowls/team_records_best_winpct.php' target='_blank'>MEMPHIS STATE SUCKS</a>

As long as we are on the subject of bowl games, congratulations on taking down the mighty North Texas mean green, quite an astounding feat. Also, good luck on making it to the Liberty bowl, I'm sure you'll be able to find a ticket, you can't even pack your own home "borrowed" stadium.

Since ya'll put so much emphasis on preseason hype check this site out, they don't think Memphis State has what it takes to take down the Rebs.

<a href='http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/analysis_sec.html' target='_blank'>SEC Predictions</a>

Yea that's a pretty funny statement since you are going to loose in both football and basketball again this year.Talk the talk but can you walk the walk lil man.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA​HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

UM_REBEL Wrote:Since ya'll put so much emphasis on preseason hype check this site out, they don't think Memphis State has what it takes to take down the Rebs.

<a href='http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/analysis_sec.html' target='_blank'>SEC Predictions</a>

how long did it take you to find a publication that had the Rebels over the Tigers??? because every reputable national magazine/poll that I have seen is unaware that OM is a National Championship Contender.

oh, and i am still waiting to find out how many times OM has finished over .500 in the SEC since it split into two divisions....

i'll await your answer....

Look, we've gone over this again and again.

OLE MISS SUCKS!

And doesn't deserve what little attention it gets. Did you see him trying to put Ole Miss in the Same category as Vanderbilt???

What a true moron.

Quote:Try as you may, you will always be a third tier school that looks up to Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.

umm, don't put yourself on Vandy's level, not anywhere close. UT, Memphis, and Mississippi are about the same.

The definition of a loser is someone who lives vicariously through bowl wins forty years ago.

UM_REBEL Wrote:Memphis State is a "nothing special" school, with no national identity whatsoever in academics or athletics. Try as you may, you will always be a third tier school that looks up to Ole Miss, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.

congratulations on taking down the mighty North Texas mean green, quite an astounding feat. Also, good luck on making it to the Liberty bowl, I'm sure you'll be able to find a ticket, you can't even pack your own home "borrowed" stadium.

Silly Willie......... You are a sure bet to get a :kobe: at some point in your life.....

Quote:oh, and i am still waiting to find out how many times OM has finished over .500 in the SEC since it split into two divisions....

OK here is your answer, Ole Miss has not finished abouve 4-4 in the SEC that many times since the league was split into 2 divisions. Thats the chance you take when you play in a real conference. When you have to play Georgia, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Tennesee, on a regular basis, you rarely get 10 wins. The wins would be alot easier to come by if we were members of conference of "leftovers" spread all over the continental United States.

So how many times has Memphis State had a winning record? Not too many, in fact I cannot remember a truly good Memphis State team. With this schedule if you don't win 9 games then you should be kicked into AA status.

[list]
[*]Memphis State Schedule
[*]Ole Miss
[*]UT Chattanooga
[*]Arkansas State
[*]UAB (by the way, I hear their stadium was condemned)
[*]Houston
[*]Tulane
[*]Cincinnati
[*]Louisville
[*]Southern Miss
[*]East Carolina
[*]South Florida
[/list:u]

UM_REBEL Wrote:Since ya'll put so much emphasis on preseason hype check this site out, they don't think Memphis State has what it takes to take down the Rebs.

<a href='http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/analysis_sec.html' target='_blank'>SEC Predictions</a>

Not that I care, but the accuracy of that website is not good picking wins and losses for you over time.

I wouldn't get too excited about it if I were you.

fsquid Wrote:whoops, I correct myself. Mississippi has had one, in 1999. Wow, 1-0, congrats.

Mississippi has produced 24 Rhodes Scholars. For the record.

<a href='http://www.umf.olemiss.edu/newsletter5/scholars.html' target='_blank'>Ole Miss Rhodes Scholars</a>

congrats, after reading the "rhodes scholar" website, they take one from each state. We compete with Vandy which is tough, you guys compete with the A&M university in Starkpatch.

They take a nomination from each state and whittle that down to 32.

They also try and take students from schools which have previously never had a Rhodes Scholar.

I guess somebody took all of your spots. Maybe it was Vandy. Maybe it was Tennessee-Chattanooga.

Draelius Wrote:Mississippi has produced 24 Rhodes Scholars. For the record.

mississippi is also first in cheerleaders hit with thrown liquor bottles,
living in the past and overestimating their self worth.

oh and first in amussing Tigers fans.

please be sure to come back after September 4th to entertain us with how great misspissy is.

UM_REBEL Wrote:in fact I cannot remember a truly good Memphis State team.

How old are you? Just curious.

We were good back when Ole Miss was good (early 60's).
We were good in the early 70's.
We were good in the early 80's.
We were good in the early 90's.
We appear to be good in the early 00's.

See a theme there? And by good, I mean relatively speaking good. Good enough to beat Ole Miss.

Mississippi is not Vanderbilt or Tulane. The entrance requirements are lower at Mississippi than at Memphis. There is very little difference in the education you can get at each school.

Draelius Wrote:They take a nomination from each state and whittle that down to 32.

They also try and take students from schools which have previously never had a Rhodes Scholar.

I guess somebody took all of your spots. Maybe it was Vandy. Maybe it was Tennessee-Chattanooga.

according to their website (since I didn't know much about this I read, funny how that works), it is a coincidence that every year for the past 100 years, one scholar has come from a new school. No where does it say that they intend to do that. So, I'm betting that we lose to Vandy most years in the nominating process.

UM_REBEL Wrote:So how many times has Memphis State had a winning record? Not too many, in fact I cannot remember a truly good Memphis State team.

You only have one small problem....

You don't play memphis state on Sept. 4th.

You DO however get offered up as a sacrifice to the Football Gods on that date by the University of Memphis....you know the guys that punk-slapped the **** out of you LAST YEAR.

Yeah...I like this new trend. :laugh:

BTW please don't put these skanks on the field this year.

Joe what "much bigger things at stake" are you referrring to? Getting to play in a bowl game at you home stadium? :bang:

Exactly Tiger 86 "Not that I care, but the accuracy of that website is not good picking wins and losses for you over time.
I wouldn't get too excited about it if I were you"

I wouldn't either, if I were you. You've never been there before and after Sept 4th you won't be the rest of the year. Preseason polls are just for fans. Soak all the hype up. It ends soon.

My prediction for CUSA is as follows:

UM_REBEL Wrote:OK here is your answer, Ole Miss has not finished abouve 4-4 in the SEC that many times since the league was split into 2 divisions. Thats the chance you take when you play in a real conference. When you have to play Georgia, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Tennesee, on a regular basis, you rarely get 10 wins.

no...actually the answer is TWO times (last year being the second).

and that was an admirable job of spinning the reason that you cannot compete in the SEC.

however, let me clarify your spin session with some facts.

1. you play Vandy every year.
2. you only play UT and UF, (and now GA) every several years.

did I mention you play Vandy every year???

the difference between OM fans and MEM fans are numerous. the most outstanding one, imo, is that we generally are tuned into reality a little more than the PERENNIAL PRESEASON SEC CHAMPION Ole Miss Rebels.

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Quote: Joe what "much bigger things at stake" are you referrring to? Getting to play in a bowl game at you home stadium?

yes, winning a C-USA title is much bigger than beating Mississippi. I don't think there is a single Tiger fan that would argue with that statement.

memforeb Wrote:Joe what "much bigger things at stake" are you referrring to? Getting to play in a bowl game at you home stadium? :bang:

Yes, it is a bowl game in our home stadium. I mean, why would we want to play a game in one of the oldest bowl games in the country when we could instead play in fabulous locations like Shreveport?

spin this "1. you play Vandy every year.
2. you only play UT and UF, (and now GA) every several years"


1) you play 6-8 teams each year that Vandy would beat.
2)We beat FL the last 2 years, you left that out.

Quote:1) you play 6-8 teams each year that Vandy would beat.

the only C-USA team that Vandy has beaten since the conference started was Army. Try again.

sorry memforreb, I messed up, Vandy hasn't played Army, they beat UAB in 1995. since then they are 0-6 v. C-USA.

memforeb Wrote:spin this "1. you play Vandy every year.
2. you only play UT and UF, (and now GA) every several years"


1) you play 6-8 teams each year that Vandy would beat.
2)We beat FL the last 2 years, you left that out.

hey, einstein, i am not trying to convince you that Tiger football is something that it is not. like i mentioned before, we are mostly realistic.

this is not an argument about the Tigers vs. Webels.

i am just providing you with facts to show you that Mississippi is a lower tier SEC team that continues to feed at the bottom of the gravy train that is the BCS.