All I have heard from this board is that we “Ole Miss
So when Michigan loses to Ohio State and they fire their coach for it (not out of the realm of possibility), its because Ohio State sucks sooooooo bad?
[QUOTE=Rebs_Will_Win,Aug 3 2005, 01:18 PM]All I have heard from this board is that we “Ole Miss
bjmcvay... the truth is the truth no matter how you want to twist it..... It came off of <span style='color:red'>YOUR</span> message board from <span style='color:red'>YOUR</span> members...
Say what you want.... I've said my peace....
Just think of how ridiculously stupid your fans will look after we skull drag Memphis wearing those T-shirts... I hope I see some.... The heckeling will began.....
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:bjmcvay... the truth is the truth no matter how you want to twist it..... It came off of <span style='color:red'>YOUR</span> message board from <span style='color:red'>YOUR</span> members...
Say what you want.... I've said my peace....
Just think of how ridiculously stupid your fans will look after we skull drag Memphis wearing those T-shirts... I hope I see some.... The heckeling will began.....
"Skull drag"? Pass whatever you hicks are smokin' down there. It's sad that you don't realize that your team has something to prove here. Your team has lost the last two games and you come to our board talking about "skull drag?" You are truly the dumbest mississippi fan I have ever heard of. :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:
And I guess your numbnuts coach hasn't dropped any bulletin board material.....something along the lines of Ole Miss will "never lose to Memphis again.....never.."
We're fans on a message board. We can say whatever in the world we want to.
He's a head coach who just pi$$ed off the team and coach that he'll be facing in his debut game. The idiot should know better....
HornLakeTiger Wrote:And I guess your numbnuts coach hasn't dropped any bulletin board material
Well its a little different when a statment is made versues selling merchandise with such statements "O... the next coach fired"... I hope all of you buy the shirts & wear them to the game.... By all means...
you'll have your jim beam and fresca ready to throw, won't ya'?
[quote="Rebs_Will_Win"] All I have heard from this board is that we “Ole Miss
Newtomemphisblue Wrote:You uninformed hick.
Well I guess all of your message board members are uninformed too.....
hick... Thats orginal
Burned any crosses lately? <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Optima'>CROSS BURNER... </span></span></span>& you call us a hick? Go figure....
bjmcvay Wrote:you'll have your jim beam and fresca ready to throw, won't ya'?
Only at blue haired wanna be gold chain wearnin gansta thugs....
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:Newtomemphisblue Wrote:You uninformed hick.
Well I guess all of your message board members are unimformed too.....
hick... Thats orginal
Burn any crosses lately? <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Optima'>CROSS BURNER... </span></span></span>& you call us a hick? Go figure....
So we've decided on Crosses instead of Flags now?
Cool.
One day you and your trailer trash buddies will realize that the only way to get on most of our nerves is repetitive ignorant comments.... oh wait... that's what you're doing anyway.
Newtomemphisblue Wrote:So we've decided on Crosses instead of Flags now?
You probaly burn both... I bet you have a swastika tatooed on your arm & sport a shaved head...
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>CROSSBURNER</span></span>
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:bjmcvay Wrote:you'll have your jim beam and fresca ready to throw, won't ya'?
Only at blue haired wanna be gold chain wearnin gansta thugs....
hey, i don't wear chains - i have rings on both hands instead.
thanks for the "gangsta thug" compliment though.
you see hustle & flow, yet?
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:Newtomemphisblue Wrote:So we've decided on Crosses instead of Flags now?
You probaly burn both... I bet you have a swastika tatooed on your arm & sport a shaved head...
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>CROSSBURNER</span></span>
this is NOT "bjmcvay approved" smack.
its just dumb.
its boring to read - send it to him in a pm, so the rest of us don't have to wade through it. please.
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:Newtomemphisblue Wrote:So we've decided on Crosses instead of Flags now?
You probaly burn both... I bet you have a swastika tatooed on your arm & sport a shaved head...
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>CROSSBURNER</span></span>
Oh that cuts deep.... but not as deep as seeing your own past thrown back in your face, huh?
Your alright bjmcvay.... How on earth did you end up a Tiger fan?
bjmcvay Wrote:
the $ec has never been involved in the liberty bowl. this would be an alternative arrangement to the current one, which has no $ec connection.
Ole Miss' Liberty Bowl Connection
12-18-1965
Ole Miss 13
Auburn 7
12-14-1968
Ole Miss 34
Virginia Tech 17
12-28-1989
Ole Miss 42
Air Force 29
12-31-1992
Ole Miss 13
Air Force 0
UNDEFEATED!
22 - The number of times that current SEC teams have played in the Liberty bowl.
4 - The number of SEC vs. SEC games in the bowls history.
12 - The number of victories by current SEC teams. (4 of which came at the expense of other SEC teams)
That, my friends, is history!
I have personally been to 2 Liberty Bowls in which Ole Miss has played, and if we have our way I may (unfortunately) go to more in the future.
The only connection you have
ever had to the Liberty bowl is that you are the home team during the regular season! Don't tell us we don't have ties. You want it?!? You gotta earn it!
Newtomemphisblue Wrote:Oh that cuts deep....
I figured it would not bother you... I'm sure you're proud of it....
RebelBanker Wrote:bjmcvay Wrote: the $ec has never been involved in the liberty bowl. this would be an alternative arrangement to the current one, which has no $ec connection.
Ole Miss' Liberty Bowl Connection
12-18-1965
Ole Miss 13
Auburn 7
12-14-1968
Ole Miss 34
Virginia Tech 17
12-28-1989
Ole Miss 42
Air Force 29
12-31-1992
Ole Miss 13
Air Force 0
UNDEFEATED!
22 - The number of times that current SEC teams have played in the Liberty bowl.
4 - The number of SEC vs. SEC games in the bowls history.
12 - The number of victories by current SEC teams. (4 of which came at the expense of other SEC teams)
That, my friends, is history!
I have personally been to 2 Liberty Bowls in which Ole Miss has played, and if we have our way I may (unfortunately) go to more in the future.
The only connection you have ever had to the Liberty bowl is that you are the home team during the regular season! Don't tell us we don't have ties. You want it?!? You gotta earn it!
1965?
1968?
1989? (Air Force - congrats)
1992? (Air Force again)
we are talking about how the bowl stacks up now, to the current situation (sorry wasn't clear, and used the wrong word - "never" - should have said, "the $ec is not invlved with the LB currently, and has not been involved for many years"). would the change to 6th-7th place $ec from the CUSA champ be good/bad for the bowl?
let me ask you this, the last 2 times you were there (in the LB), what were the affiliations with the $ec? were you the conf. champ (obviously, no), 2nd place? 3rd? 4th? 5th? - i mean, you played Air Force, so it must have been at least 5th place, right?
the only connection we have had to the LB is that we are a part of CUSA, and the Conf Champ goes to the LB.
do you really think ole mrs will sell out the LB year after year (b/c you might find yourselves there).
will that sell tix?
more tix than CUSA champ?
methinks nope.
bjmcvay Wrote:...do you really think ole mrs will sell out the LB year after year (b/c you might find yourselves there).
will that sell tix?
more tix than CUSA champ?
methinks nope.
50,800 - Average attendance of the Liberty Bowl over the last 12 years.
Even last years awsome game between Boise St. and Louisville had an attendance of almost 4,000 less than capacity. Where were all of you Memphis fans clamoring to fill it to capacity?!?
The whole idea that "Memphis supports the Liberty bowl" is bunk. The one pure sell-out in the bowl's history came in 1991 when MS State (SEC) played Air Force.
Could the
SEC vs
Anyother BCS Conference sell out the Liberty Bowl. I'd bet my left nut!
Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
WHO'S THE WHORE NOW?
TigerSeth Wrote:Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
He isn't the one that said that.... Idiot....
Evidently your parents didn’t have any children that wasn’t born brain dead!
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:TigerSeth Wrote:Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
He isn't the one that said that.... Idiot....
Evidently your parents didn’t have any children that wasn’t born brain dead!
Well, in defense of Seth, I don't really pay attention to who says what as far as Rebel fans are concerned. You're all one nameless pile of steaming dung. Who actually says what is insignificant....I see a screen name that has anything to do with Mississippi and I simply brace myself for the same ol' crap that every one of you have been spewing for years...
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:TigerSeth Wrote:Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
He isn't the one that said that.... Idiot....
Evidently your parents didn’t have any children that wasn’t born brain dead!
This is why we have Birth Control :wave: :wave:
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:TigerSeth Wrote:Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
He isn't the one that said that.... Idiot....
Evidently your parents didn’t have any children that wasn’t born brain dead!
Nice grammar by the way banker. Mommy didn't make you do your english homework eh? Typical Miss redneck. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
TigerSeth Wrote:Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:TigerSeth Wrote:Hey banker, did your parents ever have any children that lived? I would figure the whore of the SEC would be in the SEC. Who was the whore last year cough*20-13* who was the whore the year before that cough*we won that one too*
He isn't the one that said that.... Idiot....
Evidently your parents didn’t have any children that wasn’t born brain dead!
Nice grammar by the way banker. Mommy didn't make you do your english homework eh? Typical Miss redneck. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Way to read the "headers" Seth.
Not only did you try to rip me with a weak-*** come-back, but you were aiming at the wrong target.
And "Yes"... I am a product of the Memphis City/Shelby County school systems, so you will have to forgive me if my inner-idiot comes to the surface on occasion.
Thats the 2nd time in a row this F*#!STICK tried to rip the wrong person.....
TighaSeth you might want to try Hooked On Phonics, it worked great with my 4 year old...... It might also improve your reading comprehension skills...
Rebs_Will_Win Wrote:Thats the 2nd time in a row this F*#!STICK tried to rip the wrong person.....
TighaSeth you might want to try Hooked On Phonics, it worked great with my 4 year old...... It might also improve your reading comprehension skills...
It doesn't matter which rebel fan I rip....yer all dumb and illiterate. Any of you goons will do. SEPT 5TH LURKS BOYS!!!
RebelBanker Wrote:bjmcvay Wrote:...do you really think ole mrs will sell out the LB year after year (b/c you might find yourselves there).
will that sell tix?
more tix than CUSA champ?
methinks nope.
50,800 - Average attendance of the Liberty Bowl over the last 12 years.
Even last years awsome game between Boise St. and Louisville had an attendance of almost 4,000 less than capacity. Where were all of you Memphis fans clamoring to fill it to capacity?!?
The whole idea that "Memphis supports the Liberty bowl" is bunk. The one pure sell-out in the bowl's history came in 1991 when MS State (SEC) played Air Force.
Could the SEC vs Anyother BCS Conference sell out the Liberty Bowl. I'd bet my left nut!
that's right, attend=
50,792 for the years where CUSA affiliation was in place.
now lets look at attendance averages for years when the $ec played:
there have been
19 years when the $ec has been involved with the LB.
the average attend=
45,655. that's 5k less right there.
now lets look at <span style='color:red'>ole mrs</span> LB attend=
48,136 (4 appearances)
and
<span style='color:orange'>utk</span> LB attend=
49,350 (3 appearances)
bama (4 games) = 48278
ms state (twice) = 34903
lsu (twice) = 46625
georgia (twice) = 44147
ark (3 games) = 49610
auburn (twice) = 44393
s carolina (once) = 32,210
so the CUSA alignment, with conf champ draws about 5k more people than the $ec. i wonder what picks those were, from the $ec, the years y'all played? in only its second year, the attend was better than the $ec average for the bowl. and has increased yearly to around 56000, as it stands now.
shove your $ec overratedness in your piehole and chew on it.
the numbers say that the attendance for CUSA champ is better than any $ec bottomfeeder.
Just to add to what bjmcvay posted; I've worked for the Bowl for several of the last years and some of you have no idea what you're talking about (or are just mislead). First, the Bowl Game's capacity is closer to less than 60,000 (say 59,500 or so) b/c of the closed sections in the endzones for extra advertising space, thus throwing off capacity % attendance figures. Next, the LB has never (well at least for the last 4 years I've worked) released actual ticket sales numbers b/c of the want to still create a demand for the game. The LB sold out two games over the last four years and yet released actual attendance over sold to show improvement, not a climax. Other Bowls practice similar operations to keep a demand in their market. Having C-USA has been good b/c it tapped into the local market (conference affiliate of U of M, largest single ticket purchasing base of the Bowl) and gave that percentage of patrons a hope...b/c Bowl Game tickets are purchased in advance of game (with exception of participating school allocations, rougly totalling 25-30k). I'm not saying that the SEC didn't pull good crowds b/c they did, but the alignment with Liberty Bowl Alliance and then C-USA opened the doors into the market and create new avenues for more sponsorships and partnerships...local university ties usually strengthen local business ties, which can equate to sponsorships (which majority of LB's are local). Just a little FYI.
bjmcvay Wrote:shove your $ec overratedness in your piehole and chew on it.
Chewed only three times, and it still wasn't hard to swallow.
Your facts are correct, though skewed.
The following two numbers represent probably the largest crowds ever since they built the physical bowl (not including the Rolling Stones and Billy Graham).
60,128 - Ole Miss in 1989
61,497 - MS State in 1991
Both of those games were versus Air Force... I'm sure there were ten's of thousands of Air Force and Memphis fans there that day...
While the Liberty Bowl has been doing great while associating itself with the C-USA, you shouldn't expect them to give you affiliation just because the d@mn thing is your home field! Its a business for God's sake!
Please! Someone do a little brainstorming and let me know a list of other cities with Div. I-A programs and bowl games. Also list the bowl affiliations. Lets see what the norm is.
RebelBanker Wrote:Your facts are correct, though skewed.
The following two numbers represent probably the largest crowds ever since they built the physical bowl (not including the Rolling Stones and Billy Graham).
60,128 - Ole Miss in 1989
61,497 - MS State in 1991
Both of those games were versus Air Force... I'm sure there were ten's of thousands of Air Force and Memphis fans there that day...
<span style='color:blue'>wasn't that around the time of Gulf War I?</span>
While the Liberty Bowl has been doing great while associating itself with the C-USA, you shouldn't expect them to give you affiliation just because the d@mn thing is your home field! Its a business for God's sake!
we are talking about games over a
decade ago. versus a higher $ec seed than a 6-7 (that is currently proposed) - its and apples to prunes comparison :toilet: .
that's RIGHT, it IS a business, and more money will be made for the bowl, with a choice v champ, or CUSA v $ec matchup. the bowl doesn't get a portion of the hotel sales, or bar tab increases, or any of that. they get the ticket sales, and the sponsorships, and the tv time. that's where they're money is made. their business is to:
1.) fill the satdium so it looks good on tv.
2.) choose a game that will capture decent tv ratings.
nobody in this area will purchase a ticket for a 6-7th $ec v BE matchup, except for a few $ec fans of the crappy team that's playing, and the few BE fans that will travel here in late december.
conversly, there are a TON of football fans, who also happen to be memphis fans, that would be WAY more likely to attend the game if there is a CUSA team in the mix. with the Heisman attention that DeAngelo is getting, that boosts aur tv ratings (assuming all goes well). The BE is getting more pub as well, with all the realignment.
nobody expects the LB to just take the Tigers every year, no matter what. nobody.
but, if memphis were to EARN a legit spot at the bowl, play well, and win. the following years, area fans will be even MORE likely to purchase a ticket for a different CUSA team.
we don't want your scrubs.
Memphis, and rest of CUSA are better than $ec scrubs.
better for LB
better for Memphis
better for CUSA
bjmcvay Wrote:RebelBanker Wrote:Your facts are correct, though skewed.
The following two numbers represent probably the largest crowds ever since they built the physical bowl (not including the Rolling Stones and Billy Graham).
60,128 - Ole Miss in 1989
61,497 - MS State in 1991
Both of those games were versus Air Force... I'm sure there were ten's of thousands of Air Force and Memphis fans there that day...
<span style='color:blue'>wasn't that around the time of Gulf War I?</span>
While the Liberty Bowl has been doing great while associating itself with the C-USA, you shouldn't expect them to give you affiliation just because the d@mn thing is your home field! Its a business for God's sake!
we are talking about games over a decade ago. versus a higher $ec seed than a 6-7 (that is currently proposed) - its and apples to prunes comparison :toilet: .
that's RIGHT, it IS a business, and more money will be made for the bowl, with a choice v champ, or CUSA v $ec matchup. the bowl doesn't get a portion of the hotel sales, or bar tab increases, or any of that. they get the ticket sales, and the sponsorships, and the tv time. that's where they're money is made. their business is to:
1.) fill the satdium so it looks good on tv.
2.) choose a game that will capture decent tv ratings.
nobody in this area will purchase a ticket for a 6-7th $ec v BE matchup, except for a few $ec fans of the crappy team that's playing, and the few BE fans that will travel here in late december.
conversly, there are a TON of football fans, who also happen to be memphis fans, that would be WAY more likely to attend the game if there is a CUSA team in the mix. with the Heisman attention that DeAngelo is getting, that boosts aur tv ratings (assuming all goes well). The BE is getting more pub as well, with all the realignment.
nobody expects the LB to just take the Tigers every year, no matter what. nobody.
but, if memphis were to EARN a legit spot at the bowl, play well, and win. the following years, area fans will be even MORE likely to purchase a ticket for a different CUSA team.
<span style='color:blue'>By adding to my post you weren't actually trying to insinuate that patriotism played a role in the attendance figures were you?!? Bwahahahaha!</span> :laugh:
As for your statement about how the bowl does not receive more money from
"a portion of the hotel sales, or bar tab increases, or any of that." Please to not be confused. While they don't get a direct cut, it is a huge determining factor in how they choose.
"2.) choose a game that will capture decent tv ratings."
Nobody shoots for decent...
By the way... its not natural to go watch another team play in a bowl game, even if they are in the same conference. Thats what TV is for.
RebelBanker Wrote:By the way... its not natural to go watch another team play in a bowl game, even if they are in the same conference. Thats what TV is for.
exactly my point about the $ec scrubs.
people
WILL buy tix to see two
really good teams play, though. and they have. that's our attendance figures for the past 12 years.
you proved my point for me.
You put too much emphasis on the need for locals to be there. SEC schools travel, and they travel well. Even 6th and 7 th place SEC teams. The ones that do not travel as heavily as the others (i.e Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, MS State) are close enough that their fanbase would happily come.
It would be my hope that no one that wasn't a fan of either school could even get a ticket once the "real" fans had bought them up.
the numbers call your bluff. historically (in the last 12 years), the LB has done better with champs vs champs than with $ec teams. and they were better $ec teams than what is proposed for the "new" $ec alignment. i call BS.
the LB is better off without the $ec bottomfeeders.
I am dropping this argument... not because you have won, but because we have wasted enough time already. Its a bullsh!t argument that no one can win!
The Liberty Bowl will do whats best for themselves, and thats for them to decide. They don't giva a sh!t about what you or I think.
FINIS
Yeah, I think they're right Rebs, I mean, you can just imagine a Liberty Bowl featuring, Rice, Tulsa, UTEP (man I hope they travel like Florida), SMU, Central Florida, East CArolina.....etc. ESPN would be caught in a bidding war just to air the damned thing.
People, even a bad SEC school is bigger and better than most CUSA schools. We travel better, are in a better location, have larger fanbases, and are actually heard of outside of our own cities. The Liberty Bowl will be SEC affiliated, bank on it.
UM_REBELS Wrote:Yeah, I think they're right Rebs, I mean, you can just imagine a Liberty Bowl featuring, Rice, Tulsa, UTEP (man I hope they travel like Florida), SMU, Central Florida, East CArolina.....etc. ESPN would be caught in a bidding war just to air the damned thing.
People, even a bad SEC school is bigger and better than most CUSA schools. We travel better, are in a better location, have larger fanbases, and are actually heard of outside of our own cities. The Liberty Bowl will be SEC affiliated, bank on it.
you are talking about CUSA champs/choice (memphis) vs. $ec bottomfeeder.
you seriously think rice, smu, ucf, ecu have a shot at CUSA champs?
if they were, wouldn't you think they'd STILL travel better than an $ec bottomfeeder?
come on, get real.
You guys will love SMU. We here at Ole Miss have a great relationship with their university. Their President, R. Gerald Turner, was once a respected chancellor at The University of Mississippi. Hell, they even have their own version of "The Grove." Its a great gameday experience!
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